A Good Case for A Revote in the Coleman-Franken Minnesota Senate Race

MInnesota Law

IT would be helpful for anyone, even Republicans, to research the law involved before making comments.

What a bone-head.

Doug Chapman

Coleman Lost. Franken Won. Unanimous Decisions.

Someone reading this thinks Coleman got more votes or proved his case in Court?

He did not. He presented the weakest possible case to the Election Contest Court.

He proved nothing except that he was willing to have witnesses lie and cheat the system for him. Several did. They were caught. Coleman was fined 75-hundred dollars for trying to put-one-over on a trio of Judges.

Coleman's Case was never about winning. He went-in a loser and embarrassed himself and everyone for presenting a Bad Faith contest of the election, motivated by hating the idea of any other alternative included conceding to Al Franken.

Once he demonstrated that pending litigation would delay seating Franken; the GOP sent coal-cars full of money to keep the litigation going for as much of 2009 they could buy.

Now, it's right down to the real nitty-gritty. When the Minnesota Supreme Court tells Norm that Franken wins and the Governor must sign and present an Election Certificate to Senator Franken; that will come as an Order from the High Court.

The foolishness of the GOP's deliberate delay tactic to keep the Minnesota Senate Seat vacant is just about over.

Coleman Vs Franken, a rediculously botched election!!!

I think I may have heard it all now.

I just read above that "when everyone votes, democrats wins" and "when republicans lose, they want a do-over". You have got to be kidding me. Coleman won the initial election and the first recount but did not get the senate seat. Who was it again that wants a DO-OVER? The democrat mado for years now is if we don't win recount and recount again until we can find enough new ballots to change the results. If you follow Minn. law, which is why laws were created in the first place then count the ballots that were turned in correctly and discard any and all that were not. Election rules really aren't that difficult. It seems that if the rules are followed we end up back at the original result of Coleman winning. If it wasn't for the national attention this election has recieved people outside of Minnesota wouldn't be any the wiser of this sort of election tampering.

This sort of election tampering has been going on for years in my stat of Washington. If the elections are close or a republican wins out of nowhere hundreds if not thousands a ballots show up and tip the election to the left. Claiming every persons vote should count regardless of who, where or why they weren't there in the original election. Some found in the basement of the elections office. A stack or two that got miss placed under someones desk in the elections office. Astonishingly enough a number of them are homeless people and in some instances dead people. Then masterfully masked it as "disinfranchised voters" to get the support of the public.

Should every vote count? Absolutely they should as long as they were turned in on time and done correctly by a legally registered voter. Maybe some if not all of the newly aquired ballots don't have signatures because the one filling them out isn't the same person as the name on the ballot. Some may have been an honest mistake but not that many. Which brings us back to the simple fact that voting or election laws and rules are not hard to follow but apparently can be a bear to enforce when the left is behind or losing.

I don't know about Minnesotans but I would like everyone that is helping determine the outcome of an elected official, innitiative or reforendum that will directly affect me and my fellow citizens to also be a contributing member of society. (I.E taxpayer, working, volunteering, etc) This way everyone voting also has a stake in the outcome.

An easy fix would be do away with mail in voting except for people out of the country at the time of the election period. How hard is it to get off your butt go down to your local polling place show your ID and cast your vote. No questions your name on the voting register matches the one on your ID, "welcome and thak you for voting". There used to be a level of pride and honor in voting, in our country.

A Good Case for A Revote --- I think not

As an Iowan, I've studied politics and voting patterns for many years. The Republican practice of strictly monitoring absentee voting is basically a voter suppression tactic to try to limit votes by Democrat leaning voter groups, even in what are primarily Republican precincts. Two general rules of thumb apply:

1. When everyone votes, Democrats win

2. When Republicans lose, they want a do-over.

Mr Barone and other Republicans now are mearly trying to delay the seating of Senator Al Franken as long as possible so they can continue to filibuster in the US Senate while America needs real action.

My message to former Senator Coleman and the Republican Party, Do Something, Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The Way.

DemonRats are such sleezeballs

This election is a total travesty with mystery ballots appearing in dumbocrat precincts at will and Franken ballots being counted more than once. You'd think Minnesotans would be down-to-earth, common-sense Midwesterners, but situations like this make it the laughing stock of the country. Is it any wonder the state bird is the loon?

Is Franken Funny?

I never heard Al Franken say anything funny. Maybe he has somewhere, but I never heard it. He usually drones on at great length, seeming to have no particular point. Or taking rediculously long to get to the point. Recall that Brevity is the soul of wit. I don't say this for political reasons. There are comedians as far left as he is who are hilarious. Bill Maher for example. Franken killed Air America because he was boring.

Now and then

The voting in November will not necessarily be replicated by a new vote. Attitudes change over time. Some may have second thoughts, etc.

40/40/20

Even if everyone get their votes counted and the split might logically still be roughly 20% for Barkley and 40% left to Coleman and Franken. As the recount showed however, Franken benefited by having the absentee wrongly rejected ballots counted and since Franken is still up by over 250 votes, it would be almost impossible for Coleman to prevail. If there were ever a re-vote, it would most likely not include Barkley which would most likely result in Franken winning by a much larger margin.

The only scenario in which Coleman can prevail is the possibly of introducing more fraudulent ballots (which is why there stricter standards for absentee ballots in the first place) according to Minnesota Law.

Sorry Normy. Don't go away mad. Just go away.

To Jude of MN

I guess you're right that Coleman wins if all the recounted votes go to Coleman's favor, which they won't. Since Coleman took the election to court, Franken actually picked up votes. 225 votes is more like 275 votes now.

Dan from MN has it right. Coleman was all about the election process when he was winning, but as soon as he's losing, there are suddenly flaws all over the place.

Unfortunately for Republicans, Coleman won't win. He'll run for governor again, and he'll probably lose to another professional wrestler/actor.

Sorry Republicans...the Bush/Reagan/Coleman low taxes, low regulation didn't work and look at the result. Our economy is crap. Now they are playing for their errors in judgement by not have a majority in either house of Congress.

Do the math

Thousands of votes? Are you aware that the total number of registration issues among the absentee ballots is well under 1000? So just where are you going to find a swing of "thousands of votes"?

It may be true that Franken benefitted, to some small extent, from different standards from one county to another. But that benefit, if it exists at all, is in the dozens at most, not in the thousands.

What I find most distressing about this whole process is that the losers are bound and determined to find that they've been cheated. There's no such thing as a perfect election. But for the Coleman folks, the election was perfect until Franken took the lead, and then suddenly it became fradulent.

Coleman's Bush v. Gore claim will succeed only if you read Bush v. Gore to stand for the proposition that in any very close election, the court should intervene to make sure that the Republican candidate wins.