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Michael Barone

Hillary Clinton's Speech Was a Good Start on Her 2012 Run

August 27, 2008 10:23 AM ET | Michael Barone | Permanent Link | Print

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Hillary has my vot in 2012

There are men and woman so set in their ways and afraid of change that they can not see the future that Hillary will fight four. They will not accept a woman running things from the oval office. They refuse to acknowledge the Hillary role in the Clinton Presidency and her accomplishments as a Senator. They are a sad bunch, holding this nation back and Obama is leading the pack holding the DNCs hand with his stay at home wife in tow and three figure income.

Go Hillary in 2012, but I am still undecided as to my 2008 vote. I may write in Hillary.

That's right - Hillary is "too divisive." That's why she was rolling like thunder from Ohio until the end of the primaries. The voters wanted her. They wanted her. Not him. Her.

What B.O. comes from is that stinking hulk called Chicago politics. He and his henchman played that game plan to the hilt and got away with it. So who is it that's divisive? Guess you can consort with known terrorists (Ayers) and other disgusting types (Wright, Rezko, etc.), have a coven of party higher-ups (Kennedy, Pelosi, etc.), the DNC (Dean, Brazile (ugh)) in the mix and then go out and steal the primaries via the mind-boggling and often ugly caucuses.

I no longer consider myself a Democrat. I'm a Clinton Democrat, and there's no way in **** that I'll vote for that pathologically arrogant jerk who just was handed the nomination of the Democratic Party.

Hillary's Speech

Hillary won the popular vote and if the DNC and media had been at all objective, she would have the nomination. The "fix" was in ever since Obama was test-marketed in 2004. Yes, I want Hillary in 2012, but I will not reward the DNC, the media, and Obama for his complicity in the mysogeny by voting for him this year. Brazile says they don't need my vote anyways, they have a new coalition . . . probably made up of Obama's thugs. His minions are busy insulting everyone who doesn't worship their messiah and in some cases actually being threatening. It will be a soory day for America if this conceited pretender to the

throne actually is elected. However there would be a poetic justice when his supporters realize that nothing changed.

OOPS, we did it again!

The dems managed to pick the weakest GE candidate yet again. He needed the superdelegates to push him over the primary finish line, and now he wants Hillary to pull him over the GE finish line. Barring an insane VP choice, or a stroke, I predict McCain will win easily.

Re: thoughts on Clinton

There yo go again. Asking for a Unity pony and hen kicking it.

Really the Obamaphiles like the poster above need to get a grip on reality. Ok you stole the nomination and bought enough superdelegates, gamed enough cuacuses with bussed in supporters and convinced enough morons to let you get your inexperienced fraud.

Now when he loses in november, shut up stop denigrating the clintons and vote for her in 2012 like a good compliant democrat...just like you are telling the clinton supporters to act.

Really get over it...you would think a thief and his accomplices like you obamaphiles who got away with the greatest robbery in political history would be a bit more gracious.

Uncouth is what you are.

Thoughts on Hillary

I am a male and I never understood the hatred people had of her.

I hated her because everyone else did and then I thought I should be fair and I took another look. I actually liked her. I began to understand her and I actually started defending her. Hillary Clinton is a great person; and I believe that people in the media are simply jealous of her and know that she is a force who will fight for Democratic goals. People always destroy those who are good.

The Democrats - A Party Divided

The Democrats - A Party Divided

If we are to seek blame then it is not at the feet of Hillary Clinton but of Barack Obama, whose talk of a new politics was a lie. He is the epitome of machine politics, albeit through a new Internet-based prism. Perhaps his training in Chicago is to blame. He has failed to recognize the unusual political circumstances the Democrats faced and caved in to his baser emotions, snubbing half the Party. It is also the failure of the superdelegate system, which is inherently undemocratic, as are the caucuses (including the absence of both the secret ballot and absentee votes).

The selection of Joe Biden as Vice Presidential candidate marks the end of Obama’s bid for the Presidency in the eyes of many American and Republican feminists, who can only look forward to Clinton in 2012.

Her 2012 Run

I do not think she is going to run in 4 years. Maybe in 8, but that is unlikely too. In 4 years she will have to defend her (quite safe) Senate seat. She will either have chairmanship of some committee or be close to have one. And risking it all for long-shot presidential run, because all presidential runs are long shot...

In 4 years, if Barack Obama wins, she won't run for sure. She is not Ted Kennedy to run against sitting president from own party. If John McCain wins now and runs again, it will be hard for any Democrat to dislodge him. US troops will be probably out of Iraq, as their government does not want permanent bases, and situation is improving now. With sole focus on Afganistan, there will be improvements too. Nobody in the world wants drug lord heaven there. As a virtue of natural processes, economy will be in better shape then is now. So really, it would take last Hurrah type attack a la Bob Dole to go on popular president, or even his VP. Or she can expect to serve in Senate at least dozen more years. What would you take?

Hillary in '12

Hillary is not a throwback to an old style feminism. She is the kind of tough fighter that the democrats need and want. Before her there was Howard Dean who was similarly destroyed by the media. Universal health care is not a big idea, every other industrialized country figured it out. If you suggest it, though, prepare to be cast aside for whatever happens to be lying about.

I am a man, and have voted Democrat in every election since I was able. When Obama got the nomination tonight I had the same sinking feeling as four and eight years ago. Democrats try to out-think the opponents. Hillary would have out-punched.

88th Anniversary women's suffrage

Michael Barone, I usually like what you write, but this time you obviously missed something...You say about the speech...

"It was laden with references to feminist advances—the Seneca Falls conference of 1848 got hearty applause, the passage of the Nineteenth Amendment was duly noted, etc etc etc " Did you not know or hear that the 26th was the Anniversary of Women's Suffrage...that's what Hillary was supposed to be talking about...but of course, since Obama had done a thorough job of disrespecting both Clintons during the primary, and wasn't willing to reach out to her supporters, and without them the DNC's chosen candidate was floundering in the polls, it somehow became her responsibility to fix things for him and the party! You really think she should have said, "I looked into his soul and saw he's now ready to be Pres? He's Not qualified to be President and every one of her 18 million voters know it ...why would she be expected to say that? He did call her a liar more than once along the way, maybe she was making a point by NOT saying it!

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Michael Barone is a senior writer for U.S.News & World Report and principal coauthor of The Almanac of American Politics. He has written for many publications—including the Economist and the New York Times.

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