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Michael Barone

Young Women, Feminism, and Hillary Clinton

January 07, 2008 03:14 PM ET | Michael Barone | Permanent Link | Print

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that last comment was awful...come on man!

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wage gap

josh - race and gender might not be important when hiring someone, but it still affects pay. and it's not just because some women leave their jobs for a period of time to raise their kids, or work less hours.

if that was true, the wage gap wouldn't start effecting us (women) right when we got out of college. plus, there's a difference in the gap that can't be accounted for simply by number of hours worked, children, and number of years in the market.

http://www.iwpr.org/pdf/WageGap20nov03.pdf

young women who support hillary

I am a 27 year old woman who was raised to be empowered by my gender and who feels strongly about womans rights. Ive always believed that woman should stand up for themselves and other woman. That we need to stop putting emphasis on body image and superficial things and to realize that we are so much more than the image we try so hard to live up to in our society. When learning about our government I hoped and dreamed that soon we would see the first woman president. That young girls could grow up seeing that we have the power to be so much more then a pretty face. You would think I would have supported Hillary and been excited about having the chance to actually see a woman in office. I felt the opposite and for the first time in my life I felt strongly about my political opinion and felt strongly about being part of the voting process in general. You see my generation has been so apathetic about politics and government. Most, never educating themselves about either candadites in an election. When asked who they are voting for they usually answer with the candidate that their parents support. If you ask them why they don't really have an answer. We are a media controlled society and my generation believes whatever they hear and never questions what we are being told. Most of their political information came from Michael Moore's "Farenheit 911." It was only after it became a blockbuster hit that the streeets of manhattan were filled with young people wearing anti bush t-shirts and pins as if was the latest hipster trend. It became cool to hate George Bush. I cannot say I support George Bush or his decision to go to war because I don't. My opinions about our president and the war are my own. Not Michael Moores as I refused top see the movie for this reason. Back to Hillary, I first was dissapointed by her representing women when she stayed with her husband even though she knew of his extramarital affairs. If she would have left him and stood up for women by saying I respect myself too much to stay in a marraige where my husband is off screwing young girls then I would have looked up to her. I was a young girl when that happened and I remember wondering why she wouldn't have left him. Now I realize that she stayed with him because she had plans for her future and she needed him to get to where she wanted to be. Now I know that the message she was sending was far worse than I thought as a child. The message of staying with a man only because you need him and don't believe you can get where you want to be without him. What kind of feminist is that? I am voting for Barack Obama because after researching who he is and what he has done as well as what he stands for and believes in I think he will be the best president. We have had the same thing over and over so why not try something different? If it doesn't work then we will be no worse off. I have read many books on Hillary and the Clinton presidency. I have read archive news articles about Senator Clinton. I have gone on public record websites to see exactly what she has done for our country, what she's voted for and what she's voted against. I have read her bio as she tells it and also as it says in the encyclopedia. I have made my decision based on this. My decision that I want a women to be president but she's not the one. I will not vote for a woman who has lied, stolen, and who changes what she believes in and what she stands for all for her lifes mission and number one goal to be the first woman president. Yes she is a fighter and she is a strong woman who knows what she wants and doesnt give up. All qualities I admire in a woman except she doesnt care who she has to destroy or who she will use to get what she wants. Qualities that as a human being I am disgusted by. I am very happy that Obama is the nominee. I would not be able to vote for Hillary if she were the nominee. Most likely I would have not voted at all. The one thing I keep seeing, hearing and reading is how all these women are angry with the fact that Hillary did not win. That the race was unfair because she was female and men don't want a women to be president. That the media was unfair that Obama doesn't deserve the nomination. It frustrates me and im so dissapointed in women. When ive asked any one of my female peers who they are voting for they say Hillary. When I ask them why they say because they want a woman to be president? When I ask my male peers the same question they say because the economy was good when Bill Clinton was president. Ive heard from both genders that Obama will try to eliminate the white race. He's HALF WHITE!!!! There are very few people in my generation who voted for Hillary that have a valid reason as to why she should be president. If I hear one more time I know she is a liar and not a moral person but she has more experience I am going to vomit. It just shows how much it doesnt matter if a person is immoral and selfish as long as on the outside everything looks good. Pretty sad!

Mediocre intellect

The mediocre intellect of this writer and his relatively unsophisticated use of language is consistent with his superficial grasp of feminism; i.e., that it involves women and equal rights, and that feminists are opposed to sexual harassment. It also mis-characterizes the generational divide, suggesting that young women who voted for Obama are reacting against their second-wave feminism of their mothers. A better feminist analysis of the candidacy of Clinton is available here:

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/17870

Be proactive, not reactive

Every girl of my age (college years) as well as every guy, understands that gender or race is irrelevant when hiring someone or electing them. One of the main reasons that women make less money than men is that when they leave their jobs to raise their children, they find it hard to get a job when they return. Laws should be passed which make it illegal for companies to consider the years that a woman spent raising her kids when making a hiring decision.

Also, if the Clinton supporters vote for McCain or don't vote this November, they are working against everything that Hillary stood for.

Howard

Obama is the least qualified, least experienced candidate ... not to mention the continuing pattern of unsavory Obama associations ... some lasting over 20 years. Of course these facts don't matter to the Obama supporters, who like cult members, follow him with blind faith, as if they all were sharing one brain. The blogs of Obama supporters have been extremely arrogant, sarcastic and condescending towards Mrs.Clinton and her supporters (even though Mrs. Clinton has received 17 million votes) however they will need us Clinton supporters in November, if they want to get their messiah elected ... and, after the way they have disrespected Mrs. Clinton, as well as her supporters, I suggest they look elsewhere to get their cult leader elected.

Young Women and Hillary

There is such bitterness coming from the boomer women that it's not surprising that younger women are turned off. Young women are dismissed as uncritical, complacent, ungrateful. Obama is a "Prince Charming come to kiss the sleeping princesses"? Honestly? Is that an example of critical thinking by the older, wiser generation? Or is it more rehashing of decades old grudges? Back when Hillary was inevitable it was all about how Obama should wait his turn. Wait his turn? Can you imagine if a male candidate had said that to Hillary. Boomer women have acquired the foul behavior they once railed against. That's not progress. I'm voting for Obama because he voted against the war. The fact that he tries to avoid the worn out identity politics of the past is also an advantage. Please don't mistake young women's lack of enthusiasm for boomer women's interests as lack of interest in gaining equality for women. They are two separate issues.

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Michael Barone is a senior writer for U.S.News & World Report and principal coauthor of The Almanac of American Politics. He has written for many publications—including the Economist and the New York Times.

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