Israel, Despite Hamas Rockets and Media Scorn, Must Not Compromise on Peace or Terror

i think Mr. Zuckerman is absolutely correct!

he said it alll. good job Mr. Zuckerman!

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Media bias claimed my Mr. Zuckerman does not stand the test of systematic analysis!

The information provided at http://www.ifamericansknew.com/media/index.html clearly shows how baseless Mr. Zuckerman's opening paragraphs are. If anything, evidence and analysis indicates clear media bias in favor of Israel.

The rest of the article is similarly based on incorrect information and strange analysis. One points made me smile! Mr.

Zuckerman's Sunni Westbankers and Shii supported Hamas distinction. I take it that everyone knows Palestinians are not Shii but rather Sunni Muslims and Christians. Could it be that Mr. Zuckerman is mixing up Hezbollah of Lebanon and Hamas of Gaza? Both are Muslim organizations. However, Hezbollah is a Shii Muslim movement. Therefore, there really cannot be a strong religious link between Sunni Hamas and Shii Iran.

Thank you Mr. Zuckerman.

Mr. Zuckerman answer these questions for us please?

Jenin and Gaza: Why Israel did not allow independent investigation of what had happened? (All human rights organizations including Israel's B'Tselem said Israel had committed war crimes)

What happened after Hamas was elected in what international observers determined to be free and fair elections of 2006? (Israel arrested Hamas parliamentarians, placed a seige on Gaza)

Who has broken the December 2005 agreement for opening of passage between Gaza and West Bank? (Israel, after Hamas was elected in Palestinian elections)

Who has broken every ceasefire with Hamas since 2004? (Hard data says Israel: Nancy Kanwisher, "Reigniting Violence: How Do Ceasefires End?")

Why Palestinians refuse to accept Israel's newest precondition for negotiations, namely Israel as a Jewish state? (1-20% of Israeli population is Palestinian Arabs; 2- Four million Palestinians trace their history and property back to Israel only 61 years ago? and as Mr. Zuckerman's terminology elsewhere suggests, Israel has yet to decide where its boundaries are!)

Has Israel ever "recognized" the right of Palestinians to statehood? (NO!)

Palestinians have elected more than one government capable of making peace: PA in 1994 and Hamas in 2006. PA (PLO) has recognized Israel's right to exist in 1988 and again in 1993. Hamas has accepted creation of two states based on 1967 boundaries. Twice in 2008. Twice those declarations have been met with Israel's "restraint" invasions of Gaza.

Who instigated the Fatah - Hamas fighting in Gaza? (Israel + US so Hamas could not take over the government even in Gaza after winning the Parliamentary elections in 2006.)

Who caused the collapse of the recent Hamas -Fatah unity talks? (Israel-US by linking aid for starving Palestinians to the demand that Hamas recognizes Israel and renounces violence without any similar commitment by Israel.

Shamir starting the peace process. (Before agreeing to go to Madrid he issued his list of Nos, topics he would not negotiate on: No to PLO, No to Jerusalem, No to settlements, No to refugees, No to a Palestinian state.)

Should I go on? I won't. Just one last point: Hamas was allowed to operate inside the occupied territories by Israel starting in 1988. Why, to weaken PLO!

All this talk may not matter ...

All this talk may not matter if Iran is successful in dropping a nuclear bomb (their own or bought from North Korea) on Israel in the next couple of years.

What is the US President going to do then?

I have never believed in the two-state talk

There will never be peace between an Israel that is prosperous and the palestinian territories (or nation) operating as slums.

Ideally you need the Muslim brothers of other nations absorbing some of the palestinians who hate Israel and some of them staying right there to become Israeli citizens with the territories annexed into Israel.

Some say this would cause Israel to eventually become an arab nation, due to too many arabs voting in Israel. Nah. It would cause more jews to emigrate to Israel.

peace

I don't see how there can be a lasting peace as long as the palestinians [and their arab allies] stated goal is the absolute destruction of the state of Israel. How do you reconcile peace with genocide. Every move the arabs make is towards genocide, and yet they use propaganda skillfully enough to get the sympathy of the world. This should come as no surprise. They learned the uses of propaganda [and history revision] from the nazis, who they fought with during world war II, maintaining a presence in berlin for the duration of the war. The muslims have been jew haters since long before there was a state of Israel. So, as I see it, the recent war that lasted 22 days and left the palestinians in a heap of rubble was nothing more than what they deserved. They had it coming. And I hope the current president of the USA will stand with Israel in the future, not only for Israels sake, but for our own as well.

This is AS I SEE IT, by Mike "Mainer Mike" Brown.

Peace in Israel? Yeah, right.

Some things will never change, regardless of whether a Palestinian state is established or not. Although many in this region want peace for the first time since, well, probably never, the nutjobs out there are not interested in peace. The only thing they're thinking about is how to obliterate the other side.

With people like that, peace negotiations have no chance.

Still, the occasional temporary cease-fire is better than nothing, so it's important for world leaders to do their best to keep things as peaceful as possible.

But I don't want to hear another word about lasting peace, because it will never happen.

That's AS I SEE IT. I'm Mike "Mainer Mike" Brown.