Wednesday, November 25, 2009

John W. Mashek

Dick Cheney Lost All Credibility During the Bush Years

The former vice president still doesn't get it

Posted February 10, 2009

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Cheney

He was a good man.. everyone on that bashes him need to get an education and learn how respect

Hang 'Em High...

..on the Whitehouse lawn at high noon on a Sunday.Bush and Cheney basically raped and robbed the country.They care about the American people as much as the man in the moon.War profitering is a horrible thing.Cheney is a war profiteer.He brought billions of dollars to his old company in no bid contracts in Iraq most of which were just shams.Why can't some folks see that? Your children were slaughtered for oil profits.I guess it's just too much for weakminded folks to handle.The Bush "administration" was a joke.A very log bad joke.They were totally inept at every last thing they did.Inept and stupid.Good thing too as could you imagine how much more damage they could have inflicted if the were intelligent?

Article or Opinion?

I think this so called "journalist" and this so called "editor" who work for this so called "news and information source" or "news magazine" should base articles on facts and not opinion as this obviously is just an opinion. It is crystal clear how rediculously biased this "journalist", "editor", and "news source" is. As for opinion, here is mine: I think Cheney is intelligent and has served this country admirably and did an excellent job in his many years of public service. I think that many people for what ever reason, maybe they are not as intelligent as Mr. Cheney, have demonized him and I think many more because they, perhaps void of independent thought follow the lead of others. You ask them why they hate Cheney or think this or that as it pertains to Cheney and they don't know. They repeat the talking points of Cheney's opposition, which in most cases is the liberal press, not understanding what they mean or if they are even true.

Cheney

If the US Government had merely mandated human proof barrier doors between passengers and cockpit (something the Israelis had done long before)...then 9/11 would have never happened. I remember articles at the time in even this very magazine warning of the dangers facing airports & air travel.

What would the cost of been to the US air fleet, 50-100 million at most?.

Oh, but wait....that would of hurt short term corporate profits, can't have that. Wall Street hates that.

As for Bush/Cheney keeping the US from attack thru their years...the same argument could be made that they kept us from asteroid strikes, its pure speculation.

What is true is that Bush/Cheney LIED about the reason for the Iraq war, they failed miserably in the execution of it, plus (even worse as we now see) they let the greedy side of corporate America run rampant. But then they were corporate US proxies, so what should we have expected from them.

Cheney

And what cookie cutter did you spring from, John Meshak? Dick Cheney was a man of his own skills and persuasions. Pres. Bush stated many times, he was in charge and he made the tough decisions. Cheney stood by the Pres's side and vocalized his support of Bush's decisions. He supported the president; he didn't bully him. He was different. Yes, he was. Because "HE IS A DIFFERENT PERSON". Dick Cheney helped keep my homeland safe and for that I am ever grateful. I suppose you now think we should all walk and talk like hussein osama. Maybe even join in his brown shirt brigage. Not on you life, you liberal 'tard.

Journalistic Hatchet Job

I’m not really a Cheney fan, and disagreed with him more than I agreed, but this column looks like a pure hatchet job.

According to Mr. Machek, Cheny “doesn’t get it” because he holds an unpopular view. Why would Cheney “lose his credibility” because he was an unapologetic advocate for his own strongly held opinions? Does “team player” mean that one stops having an independent perspective? Since when is disagreement Perhaps Mr. Machek believes a vice president should just “baaaa” in sheep-like agreement with whatever view prevails in current politics?

How did Cheney “overpower Bush” by arguing positions that sometimes Bush took, and sometimes he didn’t. He fired Rumsfeld. He didn’t pardon Libby. Mr. Machek argues against his own assertion.

Since when was the vice president of the United States not qualified to speak about a national security issue such as a terrorist attack? How would Mr. Machek know that Cheney was speaking of fears “only in his own mind,” rather than from specific intelligence? Does Mr. Machek believe that HE is more able to judge this likelihood? Does Mr. Machek really believe that there is no justification to fear a terrorist attack, even with a nuclear device?

As for Guantanamo, while there were good reasons to close it, it is hard to believe that any of the terrorist-sponsoring regimes out there will base their treatment of American prisoners based upon our treatment of those in Guantanamo – in the real world, unfortunately, the Guantanamo prisoners were treated much better than our ever will experience.

The gratuitous ad hominem attack on Cheney’s lack of military service is not germane to any argument in the column, regardless of its accuracy. If military service were required for good judgment, then our current president should be disqualified. What happened to journalism’s standards? Was the editor asleep?

Say what you will

And there is a lot to say as I don't agree with his stance on many things. But no attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11 is real and very big accomplishment and one that, if people are going to be honest with themselves, one that looked exceedingly unlikely at that time. I'm glad Cheney is gone but he deserves some credit and respect for helping keep the country safe.

cheny

i can tell that you are one of those liberal retards

Cheney

So why do we allow someone who has done so much harm to the world to go unpunished?

Cheney was the instigator of the Iraq war. From that has come incalculable damage.

WMD was a facade to start the war, surely anybody who doesn't still believe in Santa Claus understands that.

We should keep Guantanamo open so that Cheney can be its sole inhabitant...for the rest of his days.

Cheney is just evil

Watching the last eight years of the Bush administration, I concluded that Bush was just unengaged, but Cheney was just evil. How else do you explain a VP who not only advocated torture, but, when the intelligence wasn't to his liking, went down to individual analysts and "cherry picked" ("Cheney picked?") the data he wants. He deliberately, against the intelligence available, led us into war that we cannot justify, and which has destroyed our reputation in the world, caused the death of more than 4000 US service men and women, and the injury of 10s of thousands of others. Not to mention the deaths of 100s of thousands of Iraqis, the dislocation of millions more (10% of the population of IRaq, which is more than 20 millions).

Cheney is not just ignorant. He is willfully evil. How else can one explain him. It would be the best birthday present for the US if we never again hear of him, other than to say "I am sorry." (No qualifiers, no other statement. --and then goes away.)

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