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A Third Rebuke to Bush on Guantánamo Bay

The Supreme Court decision will mean a flood of new cases in federal court.

Posted June 12, 2008

Reader Comments

You voted for Bush, not us!!!

To David and Tim,

The Bush Supreme Court did the right thing despite Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s failed terrorism “strategy”. I did a tour of duty at GTMO when there were over 600 detainees in custody and I can tell you with a reasonable degree of certainty that MANY OF THOSE DETAINEES HELD AT GTMO WERE GUILTY OF BEING IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME!! The units that captured some of these detainees picked them up because they didn't actually SEE them commit an act of terrorism but felt that they were lying when questioned. They were then interrogated, deemed deceitful, and sent to GTMO for further interrogation. What people don’t understand is that it is extremely difficult to interrogate over 600 detainees and find VALID information to deem them terrorist. Some of the detainees were in their 60s and 70s and were in no capacity to commit or organize a threat against the heavily armed Coalition. Our country is becoming xenophobic at a cyclic rate and it is sad to see that we have to do foreigners the way we did the Japanese immigrants during WWII. There are hardened detainees in GTMO and they need to be tried as true war criminals. However, those that are innocent and guilty deserve their day in court and to think we do not need to adhere to our laws when its not convenient is simply scary. There have been too many incidents during this administration that resembled Fascism. As a member of the active duty military, I’m actively involved in the fight against terror. Illegally detaining innocent people is not effective at all.

Fuzzy Law

Dear "Are you F***ing kidding me?",

You must be quite angry with President Bush and Republicans in Congress for being afraid to protect our country from the evil ones.

The Constitution gave President Bush and the Republican majority in both houses (2002-2006) the right to suspend Habeas Corpus.

Even Justice Scalia criticized them openly for acting as if the right were suspended when they didn't have the balls to actually suspend it.

President Bush's Attorney General, who's now under investigation for crimes committed while he was Attorney General, was so desperate he let his stupidity get the best of him and tried to argue there is no right to suspend.

Shame on President Bush. Shame on Republicans. Shame on the activist judges on the US Supreme Court--and we're talking about Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito here--for trying to substitute their politics for the plain words of the Constitution.

I know you expected more from them. I know you counted on them to revoke our last defense against tyranny. I know that like Stalin's supporters in Russia circa 1980 and like Saddam Hussein's supporters in Iraq circa 2002, you think we'd be safer with a President who ruled more like a tyrant. Your disappointment must be acute. And I feel your pain.

But fear not. There is an answer. Give as much money as you can possibly afford, and then give some more, to support the nomination of Republican candidates who will campaign, clearly, loudly and unambiguously to revoke Habeas Corpus. Make sure every single Republican running for Congress and Republican candidates for the Presidency forcefully declare that the choice is between them or Habeas Corpus, but the country can not have both.

And if, despite your best efforts, the Republican party nominates candidates who would refuse to suspend Habeas Corpus, well in that case we know you can count on you, dear "Are you F***ing kidding me?", to punish the Republicans at election time for their shameful, cowardly betrayal of America, leaving us at the mercy of the evil ones.

U. S. Supreme Court on GITMO prisoners.

While I AGREE with today's majority opinion that "all enemy combatants detained during a war, at least insofar as they are confined in an area away from the battlefield, [but] over which the United States exercises 'absolute and indefinite' control, may seek a writ of habeas corpus in federal court," I also AGREE with Chief Justice Roberts (and his fellow dissenters) that the Writ can be suspended in time of war, such as the war on terror that we find ourselves involved in right now, and that suspension power belongs to Congress, such as Congress has exercised in this case, "as the Constitution surely allows Congress to [wield]."

Guantánamo Bay

@ Tim and @ David

I pity you.

Do you know that of the prisoners of Guantanamo many weren't captured "on the battlefield". Rather they were turned in, herded up, driven for hundreds of miles by citiizens in Iraq and Afghansistan only after a $5000 bounty for turning in these people was provided. Some are terrorists. How many are not? How long to leave these people in prison without deciding their fate? 10 years. 20 years. Are you willing to leave an innocent man in prison? If so then you are no better than the terrorists. You would be not the kind of American who I would be proud to call my neighbor.

We have turned into a vengeful and fear based society. We need to take the moral high ground if we are actually going to lead into the 21st Century. We need to not make decisions by fear. We need to treat the people of the world with fairness. Even when they haven't treated us that way.

Bring the guilty to justice. 100%. Absolutely. But along the way we can't ignore the people that are innocent.

271 prisoners. None actually charged with a crime. Think about that. No one charged with anything. Just held indefinately. Does that sound like the United States of America.

It has for the last 7 years.

Disgusted with Bush Rules.

Would You defend your Country if you were liberated( with nothing but lies)

I damn sure would

Are you F***ing kidding me?

My country has lost it's mind!! What do really owe the vermin who already killed or tried to kill Americans just for being Americans. They are fortunate to be alive instead of getting a bullet to the head on the field of battle as they deserved.

OMGZ

Why not give them the right to vote too? Oh yeah, can't forget to write them their welfare checks as well.

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