California Justices Hear Arguments in Same-Sex Marriage Case
Hundreds of demonstrators filled the plaza outside the state Supreme Court


Throughout the oral arguments, the court was faced with two choices: It can conclude that Prop 8 is a legitimate amendment and uphold it as the law, which would also require it to determine the legal status of the 18,000 same-sex couples married last summer. Or it can decide that the initiative, because it makes drastic changes to the state's constitutional fabric, qualifies as a more expansive constitutional "revision," instead. Since a revision requires a two-thirds vote of the state legislature before it can appear on the ballot—something Prop 8 never got—this would render the initiative invalid.
Legal experts say it's difficult to tell which direction the court is leaning, although its 4-to-3 majority in last year's marriage ruling does seem surprisingly vulnerable. Justice Joyce Kennard, in particular, who supported striking down the ban on gay marriage last year—and who is seen as a key swing vote on the court—seemed to be openly reconsidering her position. "This case is different," she said today. "In the marriage case, we were asked to do what we usually do: interpret statutory provisions . . . . Here we are dealing with the different case of the power of the people to limit what the judiciary has done."
Because so much of Kennard's questioning focused on whether to invalidate existing same-sex marriages—a step the court would need to take only if it decided to uphold Prop 8—many observers believe she may be about to change sides. At least five of the justices, including Kennard, appeared determined to leave the marriages intact, but reading the impassive faces on the bench is never an exact science. "Everyone who's honest will agree nobody knows how this is going to turn out," says Evan Wolfson, executive director of Freedom to Marry, a gay rights advocacy group.
Like many of the hundreds of demonstrators waving rainbow flags outside the court today, Wolfson, for one, believes that no matter what the justices decide, the political tide is nevertheless slowly shifting toward same-sex marriage. "Even if the court allows Prop 8 to stand," he says, "we continue to make advances, and public opinion continues to move to our side, and other states will end this discrimination, as will California."
The court has 90 days to issue a decision. Whatever its ruling, the fight for same-sex marriage, with new political momentum or without it, will be moving on to new battlegrounds.
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Reader Comments
To John Eulyle of GA
I believe that your comment is lacking a citation of some sort. When you say "It's an image WE don't want associated with America." who are you speaking of? Who is this "we"? I want the image of freedom to be associated with America. I want the image of equality to be associated with America. Having said this, please speak for yourself. "We" is a very strong word to use with such a weak statement.
Give me a break
JOhn Eulyle : "Being gay is a choice. All of Love is optional and Gay marriages are inproductive. It's unatural an, I apologize, but undesired as a majority for Americans. It's an image we don't want associated with America."
These are our brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces, uncles, aunts, parents, grandparents and children. These are Americans you are slandering. Who cares what the majority of American's think? This isn't a majority issue. This is an issue of reality. People are programmed differently for reasons we do not and cannot understand. The ideal you have in your mind is only that, and has no room for accommodation of a difference of perspective, a perspective that if you were secure in your own life and identity, wouldn't threaten you in the least. It's not an embarrassment to the nation, it's a reality of the diversity of human beings. Just because you don't understand it or agree with it doesn't makej wrong and certainly doesn't make it go away. Gay people are PEOPLE. They are humans deserving of the same love and understanding you would give a member of your own family. Shame on you for posting such a hateful and divisive comment.
John Eulyle of GA?!?!?!?
First off...based on your comments I am pretty sure that you have never actually faced same-gender attraction because otherwise you wouldn't say being gay is a choice. Homosexuality is not exactly the first choice I would make for myself in a society so intensely homophobic as ours---just a crazy thought.
Second---Productivity of a marriage cannot be solely measured by procreation if that were the case then infertile heterosexuals should also be barred from the blessing of matrimony.
And lastly--As for being an undersirable association with America???? I personally would prefer to not be viewed as a nation of narrow-minded, self-indulgent, self-righteous bigots, but I guess if we uphold prop 8 and other similar initiatives, amendments, and legislation the world will inevitably draw its own conclusions on the matter.
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