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Posted March 6, 2008

1791

The Second Amendment is ratified.

1934

The National Firearms Act imposes a tax on the sale and transfer of machine guns and short-barrel firearms, including sawed-off shotguns. Passed just after Prohibition's repeal, it follows widespread outrage over gangsters like John Dillinger and Al Capone.

Photo Gallery: D.C. Gun Recovery Unit

1938

The Federal Firearms Act requires federal licensing of gun dealers.

1968

The Gun Control Act, following the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King Jr., expands licensing and record-keeping requirements. It prohibits felons and the mentally ill from buying guns and bans the sale of mail-order firearms, including rifles and shotguns.

1972

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms is created to oversee the regulation of gun sales.

1986

The Firearms Owners Protection Act eases some gun sale restrictions and bars the government from creating a database of gun dealer records. The law, which also authorizes sales of guns between private owners, reflects the growing influence of the National Rifle Association and a strongly pro-gun Reagan administration.

1993

The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, named for the press secretary disabled by the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan in 1981, requires gun dealers—although not private sellers—to run background checks on purchasers and authorizes the creation of a national database.

1994

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, passed by a Democratic Congress, bans the sale of new assault weapons for 10 years.

2003

The Tiahrt Amendment prohibits the disclosure of trace data about guns used in crimes. Following a wave of lawsuits against gun dealers, Congress also protects gun manufacturers and dealers from lawsuits if their guns are used in crimes.

2004

The assault weapons ban expires under a Republican-controlled Congress.

2007

After the massacre at Virginia Tech, Congress closes a loophole in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System by requiring states to automate lists of people prohibited from buying firearms, including felons and the mentally ill, and put them in the federal database.

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1986

The 1986 The Firearms Owners Protection Act also prohibited any new machine guns from being entered in the NFA database freezing the number of legally transferable full-auto weapons available for civilian purchase.

Bias

2004:

The "Assault Weapons" Ban expires "UNDER A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS." What does it matter which party controlled congress at the time of expiration which was set 10 years before,? IT DOESN'T! So why mention it?

And where's all the "Blood in the streets" that was hysterically predicted to follow the sunset,? look in the never-never land where all the crimes against Jews went after the release of Mel Gibson's "Passion." NEVER HAPPENED!!!!

N-a-a-a, no anti-gun bias here; - yeah right!

new guncontrol laws

I'VE READ THE FEDERAL FIRE ARMS ACT: AND I KNOW ALL AOUT THE

ATTEMPED ASSANTION OF PRESIDENT REAGAN! WE HAD GUN CONTROLS

WAY BACK TEN BUT THAY HAVE NEVER STOPED THE BAD GUY'S AND NUTS! HAS IT? I'AM TOTALY COVENST THAT DRIMINAL CONTROLS WORK

BETTER THEN PASSING NEW GUN CONTROL LAWS! IT'S THE CRIMINALS THAT NEED A VERY SHORT LEASH ON THEM NOT! THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ! HOW MANNY GUN OWENERS WHERE THERE IN 1981?

AND NONE OF THEM EVER EVEN THOUGHT OF SHOOTING PEOPLE

THAT THAY DISAGREED WITH! I'VE OWENED GUNS EVER SENCE I WAS

A KID IN N.J. IT WAS A .22 CAL RIFLE. AND I LEARNED HOW TO HUNT

AND RESPONSIBLITY BY USEING MY RIFLE. I LEANED TO RESPECT LIFE

NOT TO TAKE IT NEEDLESSLY! THE ONLY THING THAT ANTI-GUN LAWS DOE IS EMBOLDEN CRIMINALS THAY DON'T STOP THEM FROM KILLING!

PEOPLE DOE THAY? IF THAY DID THERE WOULD BE NO CRIMES

INVOLVING GUNS! WUOLD THERE? SO PLEASE LAW MAKERS GO AFTER

THE REAL BAD GUY'S AND NOT WE LAWABIDING CITIZENS!

"Assault" weapons Ban

The ban was a joke. All it did was ban weapons based on how they look, not how they function. To make an AR-15 legal, all the manufacturers did was remove the flash suppressor and continued selling the gun. I know because I bought two “Post Ban” AR's while Clinton was still president, along with about 5 or 6 30 round mags. To this day manufacturers still sell Post and Pre ban guns just for gun owners who live in places like New York. But because of biased reporting no one is aware of that except gun owners.

You are also forgetting that the 1968 ban also established minimum age requirements for buying firearms and ammunition. It also prohibited the sale of firearms though the mail to anyone who was not a licensed dealer or C&R holder. Places like Sears and JC Penny’s sold firearms through their catalogs and had them shipped directly to the buyer’s home before 68.

I wonder how parents managed to send their kids to school before 68 knowing that anyone of any age could walk into a store and buy a gun and ammunition. I guess they had to rely on morals and an intact family unit.

This is insane!

Do you know what will happen if America is Disarmed total tyranny on a major scale Rex 84 will be implemented! Do you really think the criminals use registered gun in crimes? Do you think that maybe the drugs Prozac and others cause these physcopaths to go crazy? Do you really think that sending these troops over to Iraq in a false war and have them come back insane doesn't cause this? I mean come on my wife was car jacked the other day! Do you think that having a gun to protect herself wouldn't have stop this? I'm sick and tired of these wimps blaming the good citizens of America for a few nut brains who use unregistered guns to commit crimes! I'm tired of it Wake the hell before its too late! The gov can cause aids that kills million's through vaccines and nobody say anything not one thing. You had a clinic who knowingly gave Hep C and aids to thousands in Las Vegas and no one says anything! whats really going on. We got chemtrails being sprayed on us daily Causing respiratory problems, drought, and unexplainable weahter using Haarp, the epidemic flu virus that's going around and no ones says anything. The feds are crashing the dollar on purpose people are losing their job on a mass scale. Do you think crime wont go up? Do you see where I'm going with this people Wake up! Order out of Kaos and we are palying into their hands. Impeach Bush and Chenny now!

I am sure there are many responsible gun owners. But what is overshadowing that are the people purchasing guns legally who shouldn't even be allowed a pointed pencil.

Everyday there is another pointless killing, often in families going through hard times. These are not criminals, but they are people who have easy access to guns because they own them.

We have got to start looking at who is purchasing guns because it has became a common resort to use it whenever there is anger or depression or drug use or family problems. I would think that the many responsible gun owners out there would be leading the movement to stop letting guns go into the hands of people who are using them to murder our own children.

Sad to say, this is not true. Gun owners are thinking only of themselves in the most callous, selfish manner. There are other amendments, and people in this country have a right to walk around without fear of being harmed. Arming everyone is the most ridiculous, self serving idea and if you think it's such a great one...you go into a classroom of students where you sit there while they take out their gun and try to aim at a target (all sixty to hundred of them because that is often a college classroom today).

Oh, I know, you would just take out your gun too.

We don't just have a gun epidemic, we have a stupid epidemic nationwide. Too bad our government is too cowardly and more concerned with staying in office than with protecting Americans.

Nothing Like A Little Bias to Start your Day!

Quote - The Tiahrt Amendment prohibits the disclosure of trace data about guns used in crimes.

No such thing! It prohibits disclosure to non-law enforcement personnel such as newpapers trying to discover and expose CCW holders.

re: Tina

I disagree. I am a gun owner and concealed carry licensee. I believe that there should be efforts to restrict mentally-deranged people from legally buying guns. I also believe that concealed carry should be allowed everywhere that there is not a controlled entry with a metal detector and heavy armed police presence. Otherwise, the "gun-free" zone is more of a "free shooting zone" for the bad guys. It is not so much that everyone is carrying weapons, I just don't care to guarantee the bad guy that they are good to go in certain areas.

I support current concealed carry legislation which is typically limited to age 21 or over, which avoids the concern about high-school students carrying to school. I believe if a 21 yr old college student is responsible enough to be entrusted to carry a concealed weapon to the grocery store and potentially stop a mass murder, then he/she should not have those rights stripped when crossing the border of a college campus.

I appreciate your argument of family squabbles resulting in the retrieval of a convenient gun and a killing. However, I think the problem here is a lack of value for human life, not the gun. I believe that if there were not a gun there, that person would surely take a knife, or tire iron, or golf club, and take the life of the innocent person. To take away my right to self defense in hopes that it will prevent that murder is a long reach. If the defender is a law abiding citizen though, your wishes would insure that he (or more likely she) would not be able to defend herself.

Unfortunately for your argument, concealed carry is available in most states now and the predicted massacres have simply not happened. And there are a small number of serious, responsible gun owners who are willing to go through the steps necessary to obtain such a license. The irresponsible ones may just carry without getting the license, even "good guys" who may not have all that much concern with the law. So, by taking away legal concealed carry, you take away the rights of the most responsible people to carry a weapon and possibly save your life someday.

It is not a cowardly act of government to protect our constitutional rights. It is the courageous people of America (after all our government IS "we the people") who believe that our constitution means something and that will not let our rights, which were gained through the bloodshed of many, be whisked away with false dreams and wishes of a gun-free America.

Best regards,

David

Hi Tina

I got my first bb gun at 6. I carried a .45 for years as a civilian. The last encounter I had with a drugged gang member in my house at 2AM was to remove the gun from him and then call the police. Since then I have studied a little history.

Here's a history lesson on taking guns from the people because of gun safety. The Soviet Union established 'gun safety' in 1929. From 1929 to 1953, 45 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated."

"Turkey established 'gun safety' in 1911. From 1915 to 1927, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated."

"Germany established 'gun safety' in 1938. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and mentally ill people unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. Similar campaigns have taken place in China, Guatemala, Uganda and Cambodia.”...

Remember, a single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is only a statistic.

No society can be safe FROM guns, it can only be safe WITH guns. A 14-year-old gang member with a .22 zip gun could easily put Arnold Schwarzenegger down. In trying to save us from ourselves, the would be do-gooders, such as yourself, stake us out like the goat in "Jurassic Park":ie. T-Rex bait.

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Thomas Jefferson (1764) -- Quoting 18th Century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment

Things the liberal media don't want you to know:

Here are some very useful facts the liberal media don't want you to know:

In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, and 43 government publications evaluating 80 gun-control measures. The researchers could not identify a single gun-control regulation that reduced violent crime, suicide, or accidents. A year earlier, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on an independent evaluation of firearms and ammunition bans, restrictions on acquisition, waiting periods, registration, licensing, child access prevention laws, and zero tolerance laws. Conclusion: none of the laws had a meaningful impact on gun violence.1

Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy confirms that reducing gun ownership by law-abiding citizens does nothing to reduce violence worldwide. The study notes that other developed nations such as Norway, Finland, Germany, France and Denmark maintain high rates of gun ownership, yet possess murder rates lower than other developed nations in which gun ownership is much more restricted2. For example, handguns are outlawed in Luxembourg, and gun ownership extremely rare, yet its murder rate is nine times greater than in Germany, which has one of the highest gun ownership rates in Europe. Hungary's murder rate is nearly three times higher than nearby Austria's, but Austria's gun ownership rate is over eight times higher than Hungary's. "Norway," they note, "has far and away Western Europe's highest household gun ownership rate (32%), but also its lowest murder rate. The Netherlands," in contrast, "has the lowest gun ownership rate in

Western Europe (1.9%) ... yet the Dutch gun murder rate is higher than the Norwegian." In Australia, the government banned firearms in 1996, after a publicized shooting. Immediately after the ban, armed robberies rose by 73%, unarmed robberies by 28%, kidnappings by 38%, assaults by 17%, and manslaughter by 29%. This was reported on the web site of the Australian Bureau of Statistics in January, 2000.4 After England initiated a ban on handguns a 1998 study by the US Department of Justice found that there were 40% more muggings in England, and burglary rates were almost 100% higher than in the United States. And, counter-intuitively, rates of crimes using handguns is on the rise. In 1999-2000, crimes using handguns were at a seven-year high. Apparently, criminals were easily able to access guns, but law enforcement officers and law-abiding citizens were not allowed.5

Between 1973 and 2003 firearms ownership doubled in the United States. During those same years murder rates dropped by one third. Statistics show that with every 1% increase in legal firearm ownership correlates with a 4.1% decrease in violent crime3.

Thirty-one states have chosen to loosen gun control laws and allow lawful citizens the right to carry a concealed gun with “shall issue” permits. The anti-gun crowd predicted minor fender-benders exploding into “wild west shoot outs.” Not only has that not happened, but the opposite has happened. On average these “shall issue” states have 19% lower murder rate, 39% lower robbery rates and 24% lower violent crime rates that states that forbid their citizens to carry concealed.6

We shouldn’t let our irrational fears blind us to the data. Yes, firearms are powerful. But they can be life saving, especially in the hands of law-abiding citizens.

1. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8212 April 28, 2007. “They Never Learn” by Robert A. Levy. American Spectator April 25th 2007.

2. http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/current/in_our_opinion/Gun-Ownership.htm “Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and some Domestic Evidence”

3. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8212 April 28, 2007. “They Never Learn” by Robert A. Levy. American Spectator April 25th 2007.

4. http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=gunrights_faq Question #10 “What is gun control like in other countries?”

5. http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=gunrights_faq Question #10 “What is gun control like in other countries?”

6. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4706 May 13, 2000. “Gun Control: Myths and Reality” by David Lampo.

Gun Control laws and things anti-gun liberals don't want us to know about

It seems most people don't know that it was British attempts and gun control that finally broke the camel's back and touch off the American Revolution. British General Thomas Gage went about Boston, breaking into peoples' homes to confiscate privately-owned firearms, looking for hidden cannon and gunpowder. The colonists probably realized that if Gage disarmed them, they'd have no way to resist British oppression.

The Founding Fathers spoke almost to the man in defense of private firearms ownership. By their actions, the liberal gun-haters literally spit on the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights and set at nought everything the Founders said in favor of private ownership. Hillary, Sarah Brady, Obama, Ted Kennedy and the rest would prefer you remained ignorant of what the Founders said about the matter.

Read what a few of the Founders had to say about the right to bear arms:

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”

- Thomas Jefferson -

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"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property..... The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; the weak would become a prey to the strong."

--Thomas Paine--

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"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty, teeth and keystone under independence...The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil influence. They deserve a place of honor with all that's good. When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour."

--George Washington--

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"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."

--James Madison--

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"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun."

--Patrick Henry--

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John Adams:

"Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense."

--John Adams--

Note that Adams mentions "private self-defense".

The right to arms has nothing to do with "sporting purposes", or duck and deer hunting, as the liberal anti-gun politicians, Sarah Brady and others would have us believe.

“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.” –Mahatma Gandhi

lack of punishment

Albany N.Y. times union page B3, story about tripel shooting , the 3 men that were shot have all been arrested on weapons charges!but they are on the street, i have other articles about man shoots someone while he is out on parole for illegal weapons chg ???yeah we got it all in the great capitol of NYS no prison time and all the guns were hand guns not registered. so punish the guilty dont punish me.

Opps

The above guote 'from' George Washington is a much coveted "BOGUS" fabrication. I know because I too fell victim to embracing it until I stumbled upon a collection of presidential addresses to Congress. Please don't feel this is a critisism, it is not. I just feel with 'all' truth on the side of the legal ownership of firearms, defenders of that right need not use the tactics of our lying enemies.

While I'm here, another much embraced bugus guote is the one attributed to Hitler from 1932 regarding gun registration in Germany.

We need to look at the people that don't need guns.The criminals don't care about no one.All they care about is hurting the innocent.We the law abiding citizen have the right to protect ourselfs.By taking our rights away and take our guns away is not going to stop crime.We go by the rules ,but the criminals don't play by the rules so why should we pay for what the criminals,gangbangers and the insane people do.I've gone through some hard times to where I could used the money and never thought about robbing a gas station or a store to get money.I went and worked for the money.I know some people that will do anything even kill and thats why my guns are locked up out of reach of these people.The govorment needs to after the bad people not the law abiding citizens.I can't wait for Illinois to pass the concealed weapon law.If the goverment want to dissarm the insane people.They need to make it like they do the driver license give you a book and make you study and take a test to see if you pass it.But that don't stop the criminals and the gangbangers.Either way it still hurts the law abidding citizens.We must fight to protect ourselves.

Get your facts straight

You say that the 1994 law (The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act) banned "assault weapons" for 10 years. It did no such thing. That law didn't even mention assault weapons. Assault weapons are fully automatic machine guns. The 1994 law banned only certain SEMI-AUTOMATIC, center-fire rifles based on cosmetic features like the stock or pistol grip.

Again, do your research and try to be accurate. No assault weapons were banned in 1994. None.

Gun Law Hits Home

When a gun law personally impacts you, the rubber meets the road. In my state, you can walk into a Wal-Mart, buy a shotgun and ammunition, and the same day (no waiting period) go kill somebody. It happened to my niece two weeks ago. 29 years old, two young children left behind. Murdered.

You don’t need to ask my opinion of Florida gun law.

Only Criminals can have guns.

If guns are outlawed, then what the legislators will in essence be saying is," we only want criminals to have guns."

Lets do like the rest of the World

Subject: Gun Control

Interesting Lesson In History ....

Whether you agree or not, it's an interesting lesson in history.

Something to think about...

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent

(yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.

(Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!)

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear our president, governors or other politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans.....before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects.

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

1994 Law (The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act)

Laura,

You are kind of right, but ...

Assault Rifles are fully automatic, eg M16.. AK47.

Assault Weapons (oxymoron) is a contrived term used to classify Military "Look A-like" weapons, as you said SEMI-AUTOMATIC cosmetic cousins of military weapons. Things like flash suppressors, bayonet lugs et al.

Find a link here http://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/billfs.txt

inserted from link

Assault Weapons

Bans the manufacture of 19 military-style assault weapons, assault

weapons with specific combat features, "copy-cat" models, and certain

high-capacity ammunition magazines of more than ten rounds.

end inserted from link

and a wiki link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act

If we must do our research, then we must do our research

John W

crazies without guns

as someone who was once diagnosed with a psychotic disorder (never had any violent intentions) i dont like my rights taken away because of that virginia tech thing. its not very constitutional.

then again, i think they should ban guns. but it's not like i did anything wrong to have my protection taken away.

the fact that they called that a loophole also annoys me.

gun laws

i live in phila where the mayor took it upon himself to enact new gun laws,which are all against the law.lets get real about this issue its not guns or knives or swords or anything considered a weapon.its the people in this city,if the people of the northeast could get away from,west phila,north phila,half of south phila,crime WOULD BE CUT TO NOTHING?????double police patrols in those areas and see what happenes.now im not allowed to say things like this because im WHITE AND THAT WILL MAKE ME A RACIEST,so lets get real when we say GUNS ARE THE PROBLEM.

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