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The Ignorant American Voter

Historian Rick Shenkman laments the breed in his new book, "Just How Stupid Are We?"

Posted June 3, 2008

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why people are ignorant

as long as american people think that their vote really counts this game will go on same as past 180 years and now other countrys are learning and doing the same (voting ) like iran , but the reality is that they just want people to vote but they choose who ever they want , if people stop voting less than 50% then they will be canselled automaticly and this is some thing they don't want , that's why we see people are getting ingnorant more and more by tv -movies -banks loans tax , and they don't even want to talk about reality they are happy with this kinde of life becouse they can't imaging a life with out lies -tax -payment for house , why no one in america can't own a home of their own with out life time payment that's becouase they want people to be busy working and paying and have no time to think about any of this , THIS IS LIFE IN A GOLDEN CAGE , in the past they slave human but now they slave humanity . and so far they done a good job about it .

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The same type of people

The same type of people who voted for Bush, voted for Obama. The American public divides itself with catch phrases and propaganda dolled out by both sides.

The easiest way to teach children to become "smart" is to teach them logical fallacies in high school.

For instance, During bush's campaign he would use phrases like "If you don't support me, your with the terrorist." In Obama's campaign he didn't go at it directly but accomplished the same with his "old politics" phrases and anti-bush statements. Especially the "new" images. If you are trained in any way, shape or form you know that these are all logical fallacies. Bandwagon, and novelty. Popularity doesn't equate to what is correct, nor does something new. The ignorance of the American public is believing in these catch phrases and nuances. This is accomplished with calls of authority through the news media. They are just as much to blame as well.

A truly smart American knows that our political system is closed to any influence through voters except on a local level. It has been this way for a while. Through restructuring of voter laws every election, voter drives, and media coverage, any person with a lot of money can buy an election. In other words, it doesn't matter what you think, a person with the right amount of money and influence can change the rules of the game each election. This election is was Obama. He had enough money to buy the right people in certain key states to get them to change their election laws to favor metropolitan centers through voter registration, lessing of voter registration requirements, and extended voting time. This in combination with the money to actually huddle people to the polls by providing transportation, won him the election.

To simplify this let me ask you a simple question. When is the last time a president won the election without having the majority of political support (through being a democrat or republican) and the MOST amount of money compared to the other candidates? The pattern is quite clear.

What we all need to do is sit down and have a nice cup of tea, then we can think about the issues around a nice warm fire, when everyone is happy and comfortable the debates can start. And if people dont like that well lets just reinstate capital punishment, and beat them into submission. Maybe get the vigilanties going again.

From an intelligent educated voter

If you want to see some of these stupid voters that Mr. Shenkman talks about, I couldn't think of a better example than this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zsr0UpVjoE

For the record, I voted for a 3rd party candidate. Unlike millions of Americans I wasn't that dumb to vote against my own interests, against my Constitutional and privacy rights, for bailouts, for the upcoming economic collapse and against my bank account...if you care about your bank account, then it's a no-brainer to vote for the biggest

tax cutter...neither McCain nor Obama had a bigger tax cut than some 3rd party candidates. Two of them wanted to abolish the IRS. Needless to say, I was smart enough to vote against tax audit nightmares.

“I’d rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don’t want, and get it.”

-Eugene Debs

Stupid

Allow me to add questions which practically no one seems to have the answer to. What is most important to YOU as a human being: Voting or that which allows you to vote? Thinking or that which enables you to think? What came at birth and leaves at death? What is the fact of all facts, science never mentions?

We are highly skilled and knowlegeable about waging wars, but not about establishing peace, yet, we all agree we need peace and not war. What is more desireable, light or darkness, joy or pain, love or hate? If one is more desireable than the other and we insist on choosing the least desireable, one thing is certain: we are brain dead. Therefore, do not be surprised that our stupidity has led us to do the most unimaginable things, such as destroying our own habitat. Why talk about voting rights, when all of us have such little appreciation of being alive?

I agree with Einstein. There are two things which are infinite: The universe and man' stupidity. I also agree his comment about our future wars make more sense than all other: "I know not what weapons will be used in WWIII, but in WWIV. they will use sticks and stones.

From my own personal point of view, I feel a far greater danger exists and has existed for thousands of years than merely being informed about POLITICIANS RUNNING FOR OFFICE: Lack of Self-Knowledge; the Knowledge that forms the foundation of existence, which neither scieence or religion addresses. For this reason Socrates stated that the danger regarding an unexamined life was to live one without purpose. Each day that passes and things get worse not better; it is because we lead a life without purpose

Your comments invited. Dr. Fred Dasbach (DSW)

DSW)

the knowledge

The Age of Information?

I have come to refer to our current century as "the age of propaganda".

After Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, the Spanish Civil War,WWII, etc, etc....what else can I conclude.

I know...public opinion and popular culture designed by

hollywood and other propagandists, no wonder the american

voter can be uderstood as "ignorant", or brain washed as Gerald

Ford once claimed about himself to explain some of his actions.

Given the "war on poverty" concocted by LBJ and "the war on

drugs" concocted by Nixon, it seems to me that it is the propagandists who are "stupid". If they are "stupid" them

the people who elect them must be "stupid" too.

I like what Rick has to say.

He is a thoughtful dude!

Terrific Book!!!!

I loved this book! Thank you, Mr. Shenkman!!! I am currently living in West Virginia. I love this state. MANY folks are warm and considerate people. MANY are intelligent voters. However, if you want me to introduce you to a whole bunch of ill-prepared voters, just give me a call! I know where to find them.

Even after your having completed the background on this book, I bet I can still make your mouth drop open!

Looking forward to anther book!

RE: Rita C Brown of AZ

Jingo all the way, eh?

While your science is correct, using the words "righteous" in-regards to either atomic bombing is asinine at-best.

I suppose that you also to this day, sit at home and get all giddy whenever the word "Dresden" is mentioned? Because, you know... that was a totally "righteous" bombing of civilians as well, right?

You're not an american at-heart, you just happen to take residence here.

Misinformation is fed not learned

You have to seek out the truth, not let the media or politicians feed it to you.

We are ignorant because we are lazy... its easier to listen than to read. Its sad but true; we take the path of lease resistance. Which because of our mostly liberal media, everyone in this country is liberal by default. They've never been taught any differently.

How else do you explain a man running for president with less than 100 days experience who is actually ahead in the poles.

Its unreal how stupid the dumb masses are.

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