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A Climate Change Proposal With Cash

"Cap-and-dividend" advocates say to tackle global warming, Uncle Sam will need to hand out money

Posted June 2, 2008
U.S. Sens. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) (R) and John Warner (R-VA) hold a news conference August 2, 2007 in Washington, DC. The two unveiled legislation that aims to slow global warming by, among other things, establishing emission allowances and auctioning them off, with the proceeds going to promoting new technologies.
U.S. Sens. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) (R) and John Warner (R-VA) unveiled legislation that aims to slow global warming.

But in this system, you give the money to consumers instead of investing it in research on energy from sources other than fossil fuels.
I'm a retired businessman, and I believe obviously we need huge amounts of investments in new technologies and conservation and energy efficiency. But that's mostly going to happen in the private sector. It's not so much that we need public investments. We need to send a signal to the market to make the right investments. The market makes plenty of investments now, but they're the wrong investments. There's $120 billion in the pipeline now for new coal-burning plants. But if you send the signal that coal is not the thing of the future, that wind and large-scale solar and all that stuff is where the future lies, then private capital will go there. So it's really a question of getting the market to understand what the real cost of carbon is when you include all the externalities. If you do that, I think you'll solve your investment problem that way.

You don't especially like the energy incentives we have now, like wind and solar tax credits.
Right now, we need tax credits for wind and solar because we don't have the true cost of carbon [figured into coal electricity prices]. If you had a higher cost of carbon, you wouldn't need those subsidies. You should have a cap that really works, that doesn't leak, and have a level playing field. We shouldn't do things like throw huge amounts of money at carbon capture and sequestration. Let the market figure out what are the most cost effective alternatives to carbon; the market can do a fine job of figuring that out. The government trying to pick winners and losers—they're going to end up doing it wrong and waste a lot of our money.

The fundamental problem with Lieberman-Warner and bills like this is that, because they don't recycle the revenue, they are a regressive sales tax on everybody. It's necessary to have a higher carbon price but not necessary to take that money out of the pockets of janitors and nurses and reporters. It will kill the whole thing, and that's the last thing we need. The politicians need to come up with a way of raising carbon prices without screwing the poor and the middle class. And this is, I think, the best way to do it.

Reader Comments

The best new idea in years!

I love this idea. It would instantly get every citizen paying attention and involved, including those in the dark like the long poster above.

Absolute Insanity

You have got to be kidding. The very fact that anyone is thinking about or writing about "Cap and Dividend" means that you drank Al Gore's Kool Aid and that you actually believe that mankind has a measurable effect on Climate Change. You need to really review credible science. Not Al Gore , (who invented the internet science), but real science by real Scientists.

Hang on to your seat now, because this is going to be a real shocker............ The Polar Bear Population has grown since the mid 1980's. It hasn't decreased. Our little white furry friends are safe and thriving. But, don't let facts get in your way.

The planet earth has cooled over billions of years and has heated over billions of years. It did so with humans occupying space on the planet, and it did so with humans not occupying the planet. It will continue in it's various cycles. If one were to actually study and understand the current data, it could certainly be interpreted to predict that we have begun a period of long-term cooling. That, just as global warming predictions, however, would be irresponsible. We all need to stand down, drive our cars, emit our co2 and live life. The planet will take care of itself.

Have a great day. And by the way.......... If you really want to make a significant contribution to society, the United States of America and Planet Earth: Set your mind to replacing virtually every Politician in Washington with people who really care about the rest of us. Also, set term limits of no more than 8 years for any federal position.

a way to marginally introduce this new idea

why not just start with new emitters?

would be easier to implement.

Yeah, they'd kick and it wouldn't be good enough...but those later emitters would add to the pressure to phase in the legacy emitters as time goes by.

if it's felt to consumers as a cost increase at the pump or on the utility bill, that's phased in gradually too, but all the pressure is in the right direction of making polluting more costly and rewarding conservation and nonpolluting new energy.

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