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Equal Work, Unequal Pay

A Q&A with Lilly Ledbetter, at 70 a powerful symbol in the fight against pay discrimination

Posted April 23, 2008

Seventy-year-old Lilly Ledbetter lost an important gender pay-equity case before the U.S. Supreme Court almost a year ago. But the former supervisor for an Alabama Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. plant is still a champion for the equal-pay cause. "Miss Lilly" came to Washington this week to push for a Senate measure to ease restrictions on suing employers for pay discrimination based on race, gender, religion, or national origin. The House already has passed the measure in the wake of the 5-to-4 Supreme Court ruling, which said that employees must file a formal complaint within 180 days of an employer's initial decision to pay them less than what they think is fair. Ledbetter, who left Goodyear in 1998, sued the company only later; before leaving the plant, she'd received an anonymous note informing her that she made less than her male counterparts.

The measure, now in the Senate, would extend the deadline for filing a complaint. It would have each discriminatory paycheck trigger a new claim-filing period, that is, another 180-day window in which to file a case with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Observers think the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act will face tough sailing in the Senate. Meantime, the White House has threatened a veto.

Ledbetter spoke Wednesday with U.S. News:

You earned $3,727 a month—15 percent less than the lowest-paid male area manager and 40 percent less than the highest-paid area manager. What was your reaction when the Supreme Court decision came down? The court basically said, "You waited too long to complain. You're out of luck."
The Supreme Court said that an individual like myself should have complained after the first paycheck that I got that was discriminatory, even though I had no way of knowing. I had no suspicion at that time, none whatsoever. And 180 days is only six months. And a lot of times that is in the beginning of your employment and you don't want to make waves. You don't want to be known as a troublemaker.

A jury in a lower court initially awarded you $3.8 million, which the judge reduced to $360,000. Now, will you ever see a dime?
My case is over, I'm sad to say. [She adds that her salary affected her retirement benefits, including pension, a 401(k) plan, and Social Security.] So the way I understand it, I was treated like a second-class citizen for my 19 years and 10 months at Goodyear—as well as into my retirement.

Is receiving less in the twilight of your life a hardship or a sore point?
It's a big hardship. I'm not bitter, but it is very hard because we live 150 miles round trip from Birmingham where my husband [Charles] has most of his cancer [treatments] and surgeries.

When the Supreme Court handed down its decision, what was your reaction?
I was very disappointed. I really felt that we would get Justice Clarence Thomas [to take my side]. He's an African-American, and he's from Georgia, was raised in the South. He came up the hard way, so to speak, and I understand, too, at one time he worked for the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, in a strongly worded dissent, said that the court's majority did not comprehend or was indifferent to the insidious way in which women can be victims of pay discrimination. She pointed out that pay information is often hidden from an employee's view.
That's right. Goodyear gave instructions when I hired in: "You do not discuss your pay." There were two things that I was required to do: that was to give my fair share to the United Way campaign, being a salaried person, and the other was not to discuss my salary with anyone outside my family.

Did you ever ascertain who left the note showing you were being paid less than male supervisors?
No, I have no idea.

Do you have a sense why this person acted?
It was just something that I probably needed to know, which I did.

What was your reaction when you saw the note?
I was shocked. I lost my composure. I had to go into the ladies' lounge and sit down because it was just like falling; you look around and see who's looking at you.

Do you have an expectation of what the Senate will do on the Fair Pay Act?
I'm hoping they pass it. My gut says maybe they will. What is so amazing to me is the fact that I have a dining room table at home that is full of correspondence from all over the country, from states like California, Oklahoma, New York, Massachusetts, Ohio, and I've been speaking all over the Southeast, well, Northeast, too. And I find that in every group, women come forward...they're physicians, they're surgeons, they're teachers, professors, nurses, all walks of life. It's not just the first-line supervisor like I was. It's all walks of life are being shortchanged if they're female.

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the real question

Instead of bickering with each other or calling Mrs. Ledbetter a whiner, shouldn't the real question be , "how was Goodyear able to require a donation to United Way?" and wasn't there postings of the job description every time it was open?

Replying to HR Management

If you're really so knowledgeable of HR Management then you would be aware that the growing trend and expectation is that pay is a public issue and can be discussed. Sometimes payrates are even posted. The most fundamental principle that I learned in HR Management was if there is a do not discuss policy then the company is trying to conceal something. If payrates are fair and justified, not necessarily equal, then there is no reason for a closed mouth policy! I currently am employed by a retailer and make $10000 less a year than a less qualified female. There is no justification at all for the pay difference and I am not supposed to know. She is even disgusted that our pay is so different. Without proper legislation employers can continue to take advantage of people and it isn't just at all. Every aspect of our society needs an overhaul why not start with this. Thank you for fighting for your rights Lilly

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