Ethanol Ruling a Test for Obama Administration
A new EPA proposal has sparked debate over measuring greenhouse gas emissions
Reader Comments
Re: ignorance of ethanol opposition
Craig Ripplinger made a comment on the ignorance of those who oppose ethanol blended fuels. Please do your research before opening your mouth. It is proposed that ethanol lowers emissions, however the EPA hasn't fully confirmed the impact. The fact is, ethanol enriched fuels result in a loss in fuel economy. A loss of 10% or better in some cases, which causes the consumer to buy at least the equivalent percentage more fuel. Also, this fuel can hold a large quantity of water introdeced by vapor in the air. At certain ambiant temperatures, this water separates and can freeze. Not only can it cause detonation problems in internal combustion engines, it also clogs fuel filters which can ruin fuel pumps. Ethanol enriched fuels also cause problems in the aviation industry. Many general aviation owners that can use autogas, do. Not only is it less expensive, it also doesn't contain lead that is produced only in brittain, that poses issues with the EPA. Ethanol gas cannot be used in aircraft due to the freezing/water contamination issues, as well as the rubber deterioration quality of the ethanol.
I live in Indiana and can appreciate the effective use and it's effect on the farming industry, however, it also causes the price of all corn bi-products to increase. It is a simple supply/demand curve from Econ 101. Also, as production has to increase, more carbon dioxide filtering trees have to be cut down, so emmission saving ethanol is less effective on the environment. Everyone should be fully educated. Please do you homework. As for Craig Ripplinger, the gentleman who said that opposers to ethanol were ignorant, basing his argument on the discovery of a visionary from 100 years ago, it isn't 1910. Times and technology, as well as research are advancing daily. You should keep your poor opinions and assumptions to yourself.
ethanol in Hybrids?
My Camry Hybrid calls for 100% gasoline. I found a exxon in Knoxville, TN that bought his gas without ethanol until last week. Now he says they won't let him buy it that way. He stated he could have used ethanol all along, but it would cut your mpg by 1-3% depending on your car. He also stated you had more power with regular 100% gas. I started using his gas and even took a trip down to Florida and did find my car felt like it had more power and I got 39.9 mpg down and only 37.7 on the way home. Ethanol was the reason it was lower. If i get less mileage then I will have to buy more gas to make up the difference; not to mention engine wear and higher food prices. Looks like a no brainer to me. Unless our cars are modified and we use a non food product to make ehanol we will lose any gains made.
Ethanol
Ethanol is a great motor fuel and was used by Henry Ford in the early 1900's. It is unfortunate that so many people are ignorant regarding motor fuels; gasoine itself had many problems that had to be overcome and even today ethanol is superior in almost every respect. The days of cheap gas are over.
Even many environmentalists are ignorant regarding energy production and use, they think that we can simply revert back to 1700 and grow wheat in our backyards and walk to the hospital.
The fact is that ethanol can enable the use of exisisting infrastructure, enable the use of millions of existing vehicles, energize the farm economy instead of shipping cubic money to the middle east, go a long way to cleaning our air and make a real dent in our CO2 emissions. The only people that are against ethanol are people that are ignorant, unfortunatly there has never been a shortage of ignorance or turmoil.
Ethanol Scam
Mobilize against the Ethanol Juggernaut! Go to www.agribusinesscouncil.org/Ethanol.htm.. We can curb this dangerous, growing abuse by demanding more transparency on the so-called "Ethanol industry" and its primary beneficiary, Archer Daniels Midland (ADM)
Ethanol Junk FREEDON OF SPEECH!!
I know that the President was trying to change it and he could if he could get a vote on it by the american people and let it actually stand. You know the bad thing is, that the prices are going up on everything. It doesn't matter what the american people want the Government is going to do whatever they want to.
EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IS TAXED! YOU KNOW THE REASON THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BY PEOPLE THAT WERE TIRED OF PAYING THE KINGS TAXES IN ENGLAND. BUT DUE TO ALL THE POLITICANS WE ARE NOW TAXED FOR EVERYTHING ALL YEAR, BUT YOU GET A FOREIGNER OVER HERE AND THEY HAVE WHATEVER THEY WANT FOR MANY YEARS AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THEY DON'T PAY TAXES. SO WE NEED TO CALL OUR COUNTRY DEATH BY TAXES EVEN THOUGH OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED TO HAVE NO TAXES BUT THANKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE STUFF THEY WANT AND HAVE WE ARE TAXED JUST LIKE IT WAS WHEN THE COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED, BASICALLY MEANS, THAT THE POLITICANS DONT GIVE A RATS A** BOUT WHY THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED.
It doesn't matter what or who tries to change anything about it. The ethanol gas is the most stupdiest thing that has ever happened. I don't know about anyone else who reads this but my vehicle, my boat, and other rec. vehicles that I have doesn't run good at all with ethanol junk. Like the other person said leave corn for our foods. If they are going to continue to use ethanol then the price of gas should be no more than $1.50 a gallon due to the fact that our vehicles doesn't not get the mileage that they used to. The EPA more than likely has those battery cars and I do believe in all the green stuff but my god, why should we have to pay high amounts for gas, taxes and pay for that whole thing twice. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO BUY GAS WITH ETHANOL, WHICH IS MADE WITH CORN, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON GAS PRICES, THEN WE PAY FOR GAS AGAIN WHEN WE BUY CORN AND CORN PRODUCTS, WE PAY FOR THAT AGAIN THEN WE PAY THE TAXES ON THAT. SO WE END UP PAYING FOR GAS TWICE AND TAXES TWICE. WE ARE GETTING SCREWED EITHER WAY. I am lucky to get 13 miles out of a tank of "ethanol" gas. As far as what the first person said I agree 100%.
THE EPA NEEDS TO LEAVE GAS THE WAY IT IS AND LET THE PEOPLE OF THE US DECIDE WHAT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE IN OUR GAS!!!!!!!!
HAVE MORE TO SAY BUT I CAN'T NOW
Ethanol
Ethanol use raises the cost of food around the world, destroys engines, and takes land out of productive use, all for the greed of corporate farmers and the whining politicians
with their hands outstretched to the lobbyists. Business as usual.
ethanol
Save corn for food
ethanol
Ethanol was banned in Germany because it destroys hoses and gaskets. There have been several serious boating accidents because ethanol messed up the engine. I luckily found a gas station that has no ethanol, and my car immediately had more power and less knocking.
Ethanol is not an efficient nor effective fuel and should be banned.
Stop Throwing Money at the Corn Lobby
If the U.S. is serious about ethanol it will lift the tariffs on sugar imports so we can use it to produce ethanol cheaper and more efficiently. Ethanol from corn is just a give-away to the farm lobby. Better yet - abandon it altogether and start building some more nuclear plants.
They'll do it
You don't burn your food supply. That's just basic.
Being the absolute dumbest thing they can do, ensures that the government WILL do it.
Want to get off oil? Fine. We can do it with nuclear, wind or hydro. I don't really care, any would work - but don't burn the doggone food supply!




