The Superdelegate Showdown Might be Key to the Democratic Nomination
Both Clinton and Obama are fighting for support from this key group
Reader Comments
Did you see Hillary say "God bless us rich people" in her Bill Reilly interview? Had Obama said that, Hill would have raked him over the coals for being such an elitist, yet Obama hasn't mentioned it at all. He hasn't mentioned her "obliterate Iran" comment either. If she wins, it proves that dirty politics will win ever time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N64fDLplBfQ
No thanks for the propaganda
Mr. Walsh,
Are you sure you want to publicize Clinton's popular vote math without clearly stating that Obama's name was not on the ballot in Michigan? Doesn't that seem biased? Clinton has acted like she was advocating for the rights of Michigan residents for months, saying she wants all their votes to be counted, all their voices to be heard. Yet she had no trouble casually discarding the 40% of Michigan Democratic votes cast for "uncommitted," not to mention the votes not cast because the primary was invalid, in her effort to confuse voters and superdelegates. You're helping her. Why?
Simply repeating Clinton's arguments, as you have also done in the next paragraph, is not the same as writing an article. It's campaign propaganda. You're using the wrong website for that.
Ridiculous
I have been a lifelong Democrat, proud of the values and ideals the party stands for. Now, I am disappointed, disenfranchised (yea, I am one of the "no vote counts" Floridians) and really ticked off at the debacle our party has made of the whole primary season. Had we done it like Republicans, there would be a clear winner already (actually, long ago) and we would not have had this long battle. On the good side, it allows all of us to see what each candidate is made of, good and bad, and how they respond to stress, scrutiny and missteps. So play it out.
I am really, REALLY ticked off at the media for their lack of journalistic oversight early on in this campaign to expose all the skeletons in Obama's closet so we would know what to expect, BEFORE we voted. What a concept. WE all know, ad nauseaum, about Hillary's issues and at least can see her for her strengths and weaknesses and make an informed decision. Just NOW realizing that Obama has some serious judgement issues and associations that the Republicans are sure to exploit, is annoying and down right scary. Shame on you.
Let the voters all vote (yea, even FL and MI), let the info be out there for all to see, and let the system the DNC so "carefully" put in place 20+ years ago actually play out. Otherwise, what was the point? Note to Joe Andrews: do NOT tell us we should "end this now", and do NOT assume just because YOU have decided to back Obama, that we should all just fall in line (Sounds Republican to me) behind you. Hypocrisy and arrogance. Two things I am starting to see more and more of from Obama's camp and supporters. Keep it up and you can forget ever getting the non-Obama folks to get on board if he becomes the nominee. Ugh.
A Gore-Obama Ticket will save the Democratic party
There is rumor floating about to the effect that, should the ugly and deceptive use made by the Republicans of the Jeremy Wright scandal, aided and abetted by the Clintons, who the right would prefer to run against, so damage Senator Obama's chance for the nomination and/or the subsequent general election, he may offer his support to a draft of Al Gore and accept the Vice Presidency under him.
I can think of nothing that would help our party and America more. First, the history-making ticket - Obama becoming America's first black VP - along with the patriotic selflessness shown by his gesture, would be, in my view, unbeatable. Under Gore, like Gore under Clinton, Obama would gain eight years of White House experience. And because of the way the Vice Presidency has strengthened, begun with Gore himself, a President Gore would surely permit him real executive power - at least to the extent he had it himself, virtually assuring Obama of the nomination in 2016 when he would still be six or seven years younger than Hillary Clinton is now.
The Clintons feel the Presidency is owed them. They are trying to grab it back regardless of cost to our party or our nation. Damaging Obama as they have been, playing to the panoply of America's latent prejudices, with the assistance of such faux Americans as Rupert Murdoch (whose power was exponentially enhanced when Bill Clinton signed the monopoly-creating 1996 Telecommunications Act,) they are determined to cost him - and us - the general election if they fail to wrest the nomination. It seems clear that this doesn't matter to them. In their scheme, a John McCain Presidency is fine since it will give Hillary another crack at the job in 2012 when McCain is seventy-six. But think of the damage those four years can wreak. Think no farther than the makeup of the US Supreme Court. One, two, maybe even three more justices will be up for retirement in the next four years. The damage created by John McBush appointments will be suffered by our nation for decades.
It will certainly take persuasion to bring Obama and Al Gore together in such a way. But both are wise, sensitive, thinking and patriotic men. To me the risks are minimal, given the current tenor of the country. The potential gains, on the other hand, are, for us all, immense. I urge you to take action and help the Party turn what is looking increasingly like a disaster into what could become a full sixteen year Presidential run. Gore-Obama could work.
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Conflict between democrats is a GOP mission and it is having some success. Many of the most inflamatory remarks being made here are probably being made by Republicans trying to agitate us against each other. Let's do our candidates and our nation proud and change the tone of this debate.
I support Obama because:
-he took a stand against the Iraq war when it mattered.
-he does not support a gas-tax holiday that would raise gas prices, benefit oil companies, and perpetuate our dependence on oil (an economic, environmental, and SECURITY issue.)
-his response to distractions and controversies has showed even temperament, integrtiy, and thoughtfulness.
-he has made ethics a top priority and wants to stop playing destructive political games.
-he has shown that he is resilient and electable in the face of media smears and "swiftboating". The GOP is spending all of their energy trying to take out Obama. KARL ROVE has written an article with skewed stats in an attempt to bolster Clinton's "momentum". it's no wonder that Clinton's polls are looking a bit better, but I must wonder how Hillary "sniper-fire" Clinton will fare against John "war hero" McCain when republicans stop working FOR Senator Clinton.
-I work in a hospital in MA, and health care is important to me. I live in a state where we are proud of our health insurance progress, but where many people who previously could not afford health insurance are now punished and fined instead of being helped.
-His views on foreign policy also show thoughtfulness, a fresh approach which lends itself to diplomacy, and strength. The fact that he has lived abroad and has an inside perspective on multi-culturalism is great considering he will be elected the new leader of the free world.
Again, democrats should debate this one out, but we need to remain united lest we give the world four more years of destructive republican policy.
There is rumor floating about to the effect that, should the ugly and deceptive use made by the Republicans of the Jeremy Wright scandal, aided and abetted by the Clintons, who the right would prefer to run against, so damage Senator Obama's chance for the nomination and/or the subsequent general election, he may offer his support to a draft of Al Gore and accept the Vice Presidency under him.
I can think of nothing that would help our party and America more. First, the history-making ticket - Obama becoming America's first black VP - along with the patriotic selflessness shown by his gesture, would be, in my view, unbeatable. Under Gore, like Gore under Clinton, Obama would gain eight years of White House experience. And because of the way the Vice Presidency has strengthened, begun with Gore himself, a President Gore would surely permit him real executive power - at least to the extent he had it himself, virtually assuring Obama of the nomination in 2016 when he would still be six or seven years younger than Hillary Clinton is now.
The Clintons feel the Presidency is owed them. They are trying to grab it back regardless of cost to our party or our nation. Damaging Obama as they have been, playing to the panoply of America's latent prejudices, with the assistance of such faux Americans as Rupert Murdoch (whose power was exponentially enhanced when Bill Clinton signed the monopoly-creating 1996 Telecommunications Act,) they are determined to cost him - and us - the general election if they fail to wrest the nomination. It seems clear that this doesn't matter to them. In their scheme, a John McCain Presidency is fine since it will give Hillary another crack at the job in 2012 when McCain is seventy-six. But think of the damage those four years can wreak. Think no farther than the makeup of the US Supreme Court. One, two, maybe even three more justices will be up for retirement in the next four years. The damage created by John McBush appointments will be suffered by our nation for decades.
It will certainly take persuasion to bring Obama and Al Gore together in such a way. But both are wise, sensitive, thinking and patriotic men. To me the risks are minimal, given the current tenor of the country. The potential gains, on the other hand, are, for us all, immense. I urge you to take action and help the Party turn what is looking increasingly like a disaster into what could become a full sixteen year Presidential run. Gore-Obama could work.
Superdelegates
I find the concept of "superdelegates" to be a glorified euphemism for old school, back room, political decision making independent of the desires of the voters. If the Democratic Party handled their primaries as the Republicans do, Hillary Clinton would already have enough delegates for the nomination. The convoluted formula for delegate assignment has created the current mess in the nomination process, whereby the ultimate selection of the nominee will be made by an elite group of party regulars. I find this unacceptable, and I am contemplating voting straight Republican this November to spite the genius Democratic Strategists who took the nominating process away from the people. Talk about a bunch of elitists!









