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Despite Pennsylvania Win, Clinton and Obama Have Similar Chances of Beating McCain

Going forward, state demographics could matter more to primary results than campaigning

Posted April 23, 2008

The dominant theme that has emerged in recent weeks from Democrat Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign is that she has the best shot at defeating Republican John McCain in the fall. And Clinton has used her convincing win in yesterday's Pennsylvania primary to amplify her claim—both in her victory speech last night and during appearances today.

People cheer as they wait for Sen. Hillary Clinton to appear during her primary night celebration party in the Park Hyatt Philadelphia.
People cheer as they wait for Sen. Hillary Clinton to appear during her primary night celebration party in the Park Hyatt Philadelphia.

But her assertion, Gallup Poll analysts said today, doesn't stand up—empirically speaking. In fact, Frank Newport, writing for the polling firm, said that Gallup's data show that Clinton and opponent Barack Obama perform almost identically in hypothetical match-ups against McCain, the presumed GOP nominee. In Gallup's ongoing presidential race tracking (updated with interviews last Friday through Tuesday), McCain held a 1-point lead over both Dems; another survey, conducted by the firm for USA Today last Friday through Sunday, showed both Obama and Clinton slightly and almost identically ahead of McCain.

"In neither instance is there any meaningful difference in how the two candidates stack up against McCain," Newport wrote. The pollsters further found that Clinton and Obama perform almost identically against McCain in big swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, where Clinton has argued only she can win in November. Their analysis shows that Obama, in fact, did slightly better against McCain in "both reliably Democratic and reliably Republican states."

What Clinton's Pennsylvania win showed, Newton wrote, was that she benefited from the state's demographic composition, just as Obama does in states with different economic, religion, race, gender, and education factors. Clinton appealed to women in Pennsylvania, who constituted nearly 6 of 10 voters yesterday, Gallup reports, and to older voters, whites, Catholics, lower-income voters, and those with less education. So who wins the upcoming primaries? That, Gallup analysts say, depends more on the types of voters in the remaining states than on campaigning.

There has been a lot of hand-wringing in Democratic circles over whether the long and bruising primary battle will permanently hobble the party and its eventual nominee. Democrats are divided on the issue, Gallup reports. But, predictably, more Obama supporters (58 percent) say the long race is hurting the party than do Clinton supporters (36 percent). The Gallup analysis, however, does confirm one worrisome-for-Democrats trend that exit polls yesterday suggested is growing: A "sizable majority" of both Clinton and Obama supporters say they would vote for McCain if "their" candidate doesn't secure the nomination. A Gallup tracking poll shows that 28 percent of Clinton supporters say they would cross party lines to vote for McCain; 19 percent of Obama supporters say the same.

The threat to cross party lines on Election Day can dissipate, Newport says, citing Gallup's historical final pre-election polls from 1992 to 2004 that show 10 percent or fewer of voters from either party typically vote for the other party's presidential candidate. But, he cautioned, the number of Clinton supporters who now say they would not vote for Obama "suggests that divisions are running deep within the Democratic Party." And a bitter fight to the August convention could have consequences that may prove troubling come November.

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Reader Comments

Oh no, not another revolution..

"Ron Paul revolution.."

History is full examples of a promising revolution gone off tracks. I challenge you to name one that lived up to its promises.

Good change in government takes decades..

"It's very concerning the not knowing who is this man! [Obama]"

Do you know who McCain is? Did you know who George Bush was when you voted for him? No you didn't..

"i think that we should end the war with iraq"..

There are no examples of U.S. history where citizens were able to prevent or to stop a war. It is completely unrealistic expectation.. And even if US Army pulls out of Iraq, the private Blackwater mercenaries will replace them..

"Apparently Liz Halloran has no understanding of politics. "

This article is not a serious discussion of politics. Otherwise it would focus on issues that matter. Why are issues nowhere to be found? eh?

"Obama has defended Wright.." True, but George Bush defended the Bin Laden family and even flew them on a private jet after 9/11. Why don't we explore the real connections between Republicans and bad islamists or crazy neocon churches?

Why did democrats pick a WOMAN and a Young BLACK Islamic-named man instead of an old white man? This is an insurmountable disadvantage to the Dems.

Liz Halloran

Apparently Liz Halloran has no understanding of politics. Her ridiculous bolstering of Gallup's idea that Clinton and Obama will beat or lose to McCain by the same margins is based on polls taken now in April. Clinton is saying that come Novemeber, Obama will not withstand the Republican smears and he will lose. Clinton's concerns should be clear to anyone making a living writing about politics. Current polls are not able to account for Ayres, Wright, Bittergate, Michelle and the rest after they have been endlessly exploited by the Republican machinery. Hillary should be way ahead of this bumbling novice and the only reason she isn't is that the Democrats love to lose. And they constantly find new ways to do it.

war

i think that we should end the war with iraq because to many lives have been lost already and we don't need to put any more in danger!

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