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Voters See Very Different Healthcare Plans from Obama, Clinton, and McCain

Posted April 18, 2008

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Are we sure that giving the government any control is a good idea? While I think that health insurance is too expensive, look around the country, and the states that pay the most per month have the most state mandated regulations! Look at you local nursing homes (STATE FUNDED) they are so regulated that the focus is on "paper work" getting it all right so the government will pay, not the care of the residents. They also mandate the amount of nursing staff, which may not be adquate for really good care; however, homes are not going to hire more nurses because they do not have the funding to pay for it. Please remember that nothing is FREE, and while class warfare is a great emotional political grab the government is not the answer!

Health care

As some people have already stated, what we need is a 'national health care system'. I lived 38 years in the UK, and enjoyed the health care system there. My mother and siblings continue to enjoy the system. Can it be improved ? Of course! But right now what we have in the USA is frightening. I have had experience with the illness of my father in the UK and my father-in-law in the USA. People who run down the UK system obviously have not experienced it.

What Obama and Clinton are offering is just not good enough - Americans will continue to suffer poor coverage, and lose their homes. It's a shame. The McCain 'plan' is virtually non-existent. He has health care, so he is covered. Good for him. By the way, being a war hero and suffering under the enemy is something we all need to honor and respect, but it isn't a qualification to president of the United States.

Thank you Lin Fox of CA

You are an enlightened and courageous soul. You "get it" about the change we need from the Republican "talking points" to actual solutions. Your planned change of vote this time is appreciated by millions.

McCain Meet the Press on Healthcare

Sen. McCain has served his country with distinction. But his healthcare comments on this morning's Meet the Press were very disturbing. He ridiculed the systems in Canada and the UK. He is either ignorant of how well these systems serve the people there or worse. I am an Ameriacan who lived 5 years in the UK. My wife and I had our 2 children on the UK public health system and it works very well.

Sen. McCain's has sunk to trading on his POW experience instead on owning up to the fact that he and every member of congress and the president himself enjoy government sponsered health care that taxpayers fund. Aren't we all entitled to that level of care? I have been a Republican for 35 years and will vote for whatever Democrat is nominated. I hope thaey can make a change. The Republicans from Sen. McCain's comments today will not even try.

Health Care

When we had the old fee-for-service system, we proved that doctors make lousy businessmen. Under managed care, we have proven that businessmen make lousy doctors.

We don't have health insurance in this country, we have sick insurance: you only use it when you get sick. And god help you if you do.

None of these candidates' plans will work, because they are all still for-profit systems, and are based on employment. As long as you are healthy enough to work, you have insurance (maybe); get sick, and you have no insurance, and no income to buy insurance, a truly vicious cycle.

None of these plans will work to reduce costs because the primary place of care is still the doctor's office and hospital, not the home, school or job.

None of these plans will work because they are still focused on diagnosis (surgery and expensive tests) and treatment (drugs), not prevention.

None of these plans will help Americans get healthy, stay healthy, or save money, and all three plans will still guarantee that the insurance companies, drug companies, and medical equipment companies will make money.

It won't matter who wins the election - big business will continue to get rich, and the rest of us will get sicker, and poorer.

Take out the profits, shift the place of care, shift the emphasis of care.

Bring on socialized medicine now, before it's too late.

Howard C. Lucas, MD is 100% correct.

I went to www.PNHP.org.

Howard C. Lucas, MD of FL is absolutely 100% correct.

Also Paul of AL and Deidra Kaplan of LA are also right on.

Would that candidates would read these comments (and stop

taking money from the insurance lobby!)

reason

I am not a fan of universal health care but something has to be done. Obama is too divisive a figure and too idealistic to be able to get anything practical done. Besides when someone that idealistic gets the presidency only bad things happen.. anyone who lived through the Carter years will know what I mean.

Hillary has been through this debate before, her idealism has been tempered by the practical realities of the world since then. In spite of her failings I trust her abilities to get things done in Health Care reform. Obama is just too clueless of the real world. His ideas and divisiveness would mean gridlock or worse.. which would mean another 4 years of pain for everyone.

If Hillary loses the nomination then I can not in good conciense vote for someone as incompetant and immature as Obama. I'll have to vote for McCain. McCain at least knows how to work accross the isle. I don't like his health care reform package much but it would at least get done. Noone is going to work with Obama.

Diedre is Right

Free Market health care care doesn't work. These insurance companies are in business to make money. The only way to do that is to take in money and NOT pay it out for health care.. It makes no sense to throw everyone into their arms. The government should be providing this service. You would think that providing for the health of its citizens would be one of the government's main purposes - even higher than making war or adding earmarks.

As to costs, if the Government can't control the raising cost, then who can? It looks awfully like the drug companies, doctors and hmo's are deciding how this works...not us.

"Everyone gets Health Insurance one way or the other and restricts cost to fixed % of earnings, that means no one pays more than can reasonably afford."

Unless you pay so called "child" support.

Then you will be forced to have health insurance and your capacity to pay will STILL be based on your GROSS pay, just like everything is for "child" support payors.

Just more left wing garbage.

Single payer universal health care

Universal single payer health care can be administered for about 4%.No private insurance companies. The present system of private insurance companies costs about 30% for administration and profit. On top of this it costs medical offices and hospitals at least 10% to collect the payments.

go to Physicians fo a National Health Program for the only plan that will work.

www.PNHP.org

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