The Gay Bishop at the Center of the Anglican Storm

It's very hard to be openly gay, lesbian or bisexual. They usually got harassed, beaten up, pushed around and called all kinds of slurs. They would say all sorts of horrible things for the wrong reasons.

So I think for GLBT, they'd better find some online community or something like that, to come out first, where they may feel support, happy, free, just like the one **BiLoves dotcom**. Also members there are very active. Hope you are the one.Ifyou come here frequently, you may find what you are looking easily and quickly.

no way..

I agree that there should not be a homosexual in the clergy because there is a fine line between what goes on in the world today in the church and what should not happen... Church has changed so much these days its as if the church is changing due to the influence of people that really do not need to have a say how it should change. I believe that the church should stay the same way it always has been.

It Is The Wish Of God That McCain Be Elected. Election Is Over.Part 2

By: Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment.

The whole American election boils down to just one (1) and only:

Battle Ground State = Armageddon (literary) = Maryland State.

The are only four possibilites:

(1) Obama got elected. Maryland vote for Obama. Naval Academy stay in Maryland.

(2) McCain got elected. Marylad vote for McCain. Naval Academy stay in Maryland.

(3) Obama got elected. Maryland vote against Obama. Naval Academy stay in Maryland. It not feasible for Obama to reloate the Academy because it generate income to the state of Maryland. Many Black live in Maryland. The only thing Obama can do is to send in his secret police and get rid of his Black traitors.

(4) McCain got elected. Maryland vote against McCain. McCain relocates the Naval Academy. The problem is Arizon is the most arrid or driest place in the U. S. The entire state is a desert and Grand Canyon. How can a Naval Academy locate in a place with no water? So during this election McCain can campaign by saying if him was elected and Maryland vote against him then he will relocate to the state where there is plenty of water. So where else but the Great Lake and Illinois. McCain can also suggest other Great Lake states such as Ohio, Michigan, New York, Wisconsin, or Minnesota depending on who are going to elect him. So people in Illinois will vote for McCain and Maryland will have no choice but also vote vote for McCain. Since Maryland is the Black Capital near the nation's Capital and Illinois is a Black State, if Obama loses there, then their is no way he can win this election. The main issue and prize for this election is nothing else but the Naval Academy in Maryland. The election is over, Amen!

It Is The Wish Of God That McCain Be Elected President. The Election Is Over!

By: Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment

The One and only issue in this election is: Whether The U. S. Naval Academy should remain in Annapolis, Maryland?

The whole American election boils down to just one (1) and only one:

Battle Ground State = Armageddon (literary) = Maryland State.

An important presidential election record will be broken this year, it is not the first time a woman or Black person will be elected to the Executive office. We will be seeing the greatest American tragedy unfolding right before our eyes. It is one of the rare occasions when a native son will not be elected by his own state. To make it worse, such native son is the greatest hero in an area which has always been the pride and joy of that state. Correct me if I am wrong. I have hardly heard any one at the Repulican Convention or during their campaign mentioned the Annapolis Naval Academy, not even McCain himself. Being born in Panama to a naval family and travel all over this country and the world, McCain really does not have a true home. Arizona is a state he used for election to Congress which he has not visited frequently. The Navy Academy is the only place McCain can really call his home in which he had spent the happiest time of his college life with his navy friends. Maryland should welcome her naval son with open arms and elect him as president.

But, no! Maryland have 1.6 million Black or approximately 30 % of the state's population making it the "Black Capital" near of the real Capital of the nation. It was 36 % to 61% (almost double) in favor of Obama over Hillary during the primary here. All media and people in Maryland have expressed the sad fact that little or no Marylanders will vote for McCain. I personally don't like McCain very much but my conscience forced me to campaign for him. This episode is not only the greatest disgrace of all Americans but also of that of the human race. It is an unforgivable sin committed by all Marylanders especially its Black racists. People will ashame to live in Maryland. I am making suggestion to our Government to relocate its Naval Academy out of Maryland. The true and only battle ground states, for this election, are not Ohio, Florida or Michigan but Maryland. The decision is not who is going to become president? But whether God had made a mistake in creating man?

With this letter I have ended this election right here and now! All of you should know that it will be impossible for Obama to win without Maryland.

Again, the whole American election boils down to just one (1) and only one:

Battle Ground State = Armageddon (literary) = Maryland State.

The One and only issue in this election is: Whether The U. S. Naval Academy should remain in Annapolis, Maryland.

Complete Analysis Of The Religious Values Of Sarah Palin.

The Puritan Religious Values Of Sarah Palin. The Most Complete

Political Incorrect Political Analysis Of Sarah Palin.

By: Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment.

Since Palin is from the West, those battle ground states such as

Alaska, Oregon, Hawaii and Washington State can be won more easily by Republicans. There is also potentials for a alifornia victory which will definitely be decisive on the whole lection. Obama was born in Hawaii, Obama's defeat there will be his greatest humiliation. Alaska is on of the biggest oil producing state. When oil drilling is the nmber one issue in this election, being a governor of Alaska will certainly help. Alaska is also the last remaining wilderness of the U. S. A. It will be a good opportunity for the Republican to show their concerns of the Environment by using her. Palin is a woman therefore will attract women voters. She is young, very pretty with great sex appeal to straight men and lesbian women. Her pregnant teenage daughter will draw sympathy from those who were teenage unwed mothers and pro-life anti-abortion voters. Single mothers will also be attracted to the Republican Party. She represents traditional White families of Puritan values as opposed to those predominately single parent unwed mother type Black families. Neither McCain nor Palin are political correct. They only speak the truth and are very "genuine, what you see is what you get!" as quoted from the Alaskan Republican

Convention delegates. She represents White people who have been

displaced from the lower 48 states due to crimes and harassment from Blacks there. Those White people have little or no choice but to seek Northern Exposure living in Alaska for peace and quiet. They will certainly revenge Black intimidation and harassment. McCain's situations is quite similar. After the Civil War, the U. S. was destabilized by its Black minority. The only way to unite this country was to destabilize other nations and the world. To achieve that goal, the U. S. had to invade other countries such as Vietnam. McCain was a pawn and victim of such U. S. aggression. He certainly will blame

African American for that. Palin was the military commander of the Alaskan Air National Guard which are useful experience for a future Commander-in-Chief of this country because Alaska is bordering Russia and near China and Japan with one fourth of all U. S. nuclear missiles located in that state. McCain who was also a professional soldier himself will feel comfortable working with Palin. Among both Republican and Democratic Party tickets Palin is the only one with executive and administrative experience . All other candidates McCain, Obama and Biden have only legislative experience. It is impossible for Obama to survive the harish punishments from God.

Schism in the Anglican Church

I find it amazing that any bishop in this country could have ever been ordained when openly and unrepentantly committing any sin. I applaud the ones who are fighting to retain the real truth as found in the scriptures. I'm a sinner myself and I turn to the word of God and to God Himself to help me NOT to sin not to try and manipulate people to agree with my sinful behavior. It's true God does love everybody but he also hates sin and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him. It's very sad to watch and read what's going on in our country today in regards to the "homosexual community" as it is put no nicely. What if those who are openly committing adultery decided to rally together to help their cause and try and pursuade society that they can't help themselves, they were born that way, openly practice sin and on top of it want to be ordained as ministers. True God does love them but He doesn't want us going around unabashedly committing sin. It's the same principle. I don't hate homosexuals. I don't hate people who have committed adultery. I'm a sinner myself. But what's wrong is wrong and what's right is right. Bishops and all clergy should be trying to do what's right and teaching people Godly principles.

As far as I'm concerned the schism is being caused by the those in opposition; people who cannot accept what the word of God says and are seeking to divide the church. They are the ones causing the division. The conservatives are merely trying to preserve and protect what is right. As far as I'm concerned the Rev. Gene Robinson is in grave error and should step down.

I believe I have a right to my religious beliefs also.

TO SUE WHITLOCK RE: "BIBLICAL AUTHORITY":

You write as if you are a well-meaning, special daughter of God. However, you must realize that by condoning sinfulness in any manner whatsoever, so as to lead others away from the Truth and the Light of God, you are not only incurring the debt of sin for your own sinfulness by doing so, but you are also incurring the debt of sin for all those beloved of God of whom you are leading astray!

Also, the Holy Words of God as written in the Bible were Inspired by God for the edification of all mankind, for each generation, until the end of time. Thus, only those chosen by God and whom are infused by His Holy Spirit of Wisdom are called on to interpret the exegeses of His Word, lest "...Their own opinion lead them astray".

Please read my above comment entitled, "Discourse on Gay and Lesbian Marriages", by Ivan Erickson, as well as the entire article posted on my website, www.ivan-erickson.com - I invite you to comment on what I have written. God bless you.

Mutually Exclusive Goals

Robert Florin declares "You have to practice what you preach." I agree. You cannot simultaneously pledge to love your neighbor as yourself and practice discrimination against them. And you cannot seek to legitimize that discrimination with a selective, uncritical and ahistorical biblicism and have that argument be taken seriously.

Francis of Assisi was noted for saying "Preach the Gospel at all times. Use words when necessary." If one's actions are not consistent with their words, if one's attitudes are not consistent with their highest principles, there is only one word necessary: hypocrisy.

Focus on Bishop Gene Robinson

Bishop Gene did not ask for all the media attention that he is getting.

It is very unfortunate, I feel, that the emphasis in the media has been on his sexual orientation and not on his qualities as a Christian and aa a Bishop.

Biblical authority

It is surely generally accepted that the story of the Creation in Genesis is a myth? All the major religions have similar Creation stories, as they do about the death and resurrection after 3 days of their leaders. So why is is given so much weight in this debate?

Taking one interpretation of the Bible as the literal truth is dangerous. The Bible does not condemn slavery, for instance, and at one time Christians were actually writing in support of it - even after the Emancipation Act had been passed.

God's message to us is eternal, but the Bible was written at a particular time and within a particular culture. Jesus never said that women cannot be ordained to the Episcopate, or that just because people are the same sex a lasting, faithful and monogamous relationship between two of them is a sin.

The Bible was written in a very macho culture, where men were expected to be big and bold and women were subordinate and entitled to no respect. (The same mind-set still exists today in some African countries and in the Caribbean, where I live.)

For a man to behave in any way like a woman was to invite shame and recrimination, which is why same sex between two men was forbidden.

Homosexuality is NOT a matter of choice. If you are gay or lesbian, that's the way you are. You can choose to remain celibate if you wish, but you can't change your sexual orientation.

For goodness' sake, which do you think concerns God more - the death penalty for homosexual behaviour in some countries, or two men/two women living together faitfully in mutual love and respect for most of their adult lives?

By the way, I happen to be straight so I have no axe to grind.