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Election Season Wild Card: Covert Operations Against Iran, al Qaeda

War being waged in the shadows could end up in the spotlight

Posted June 30, 2008

Reader Comments

lols' Rubbish!

Wow! Such fury from a rabid Neocon! What a bunch

of hardnosed rubbish -- keep it up and one of these

days "righteous fury" will land in America.... Then,

rather than your words, "Exactly, destruction of Persian

people and property. That does not concern us...." will

become, "Exactly, destruction of American people

and property. That does not concern us...." Violence

breeds violence, and it will soon appear in your own

back yard!

RE : Practice before you PREACH

Dear undereducated Moron, Your statement "The only country that used nuclear weapons is our own.It killed millions of innocent life in Japan." .if erroneous.

Try to read a book sometime and do some research.You will find this fact :

"The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki by the end of 1945,[3] roughly half on the days of the bombings."

That is only 220,000 not the "millions" you imagined.The fact is the US bombed two major industrial centers, not a major population center such as Tokyo.

You would not know this because obviously you dont read, but Hitler,Stalin,Mao tse tung a and about a half dozen other Dictator/conquerors were individually responsible for the deaths or tens of millions of innocents EACH.

Even the recent tsunami in the indian ocean killed more innocents.

We were in the middle of a war at that time and the bombs were used to knock out the industial base of Japan to force Japan to surrender.Hitler was also trying to develop and use a nuclear weapon before Germany was defeated and believe me he would have used them.

Since that time the Soviet union has threatened the US many times with nuclear destruction and even put their missles in Cuba as a direct threat.

China as recently as 2 years ago threatened to vaporize San Diego if the US interviened in a Taiwan conflict. China will soon have many more nuclear weapons than the rest of the world combined.

Iran has many times theatened to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and believe me if they get a nuclear weapon, they will do just that. We have a mutual defense treaty with israel. Would you prefer to get involved before Iran has a nuclear weapon or after?

You act like the rest of the world is so meek and mild and the US is the only aggressor. I suggest you read some books and newspapers and quit smoking them.

I have many friends from Iran. I can tell you they do not like their current goverment but are powerless to do anything about it.The mullahs that run Iran are a group of about 50 individuals who are all millionares now and run Iran like a Mafia and claim its all in the name of Allah.While the rest of the people are starving to death.

I hope the US is trying to destabilize Iran and is prepared to do what it takes if that doesnt work.

Rememeber that great song from a few years back:

"Bomb bomb bomb Bomb bomb Iran"

Catchy and hopefully one day true!

The Truth of the Bush's Neocon agenda

The Neo Con's Brave New World

Now Bush and Cheney had a problem

That chewed upon their ass

For Iran had operating fields

That were beond their grasp

So what to do about it

How to turn the game our way

We will state they want the atom bomb

Then blow them all away

But we have to play it cunning

For we cant afford lose

We stir up the Israelis to hit them

Then just blame it on the Jews

For Israel is always threatened

When they don’t get their way

And since they have atomic bombs

It makes sense anyway

Since 48 they have cried the victim

And they have that role down pat

For when they fly to strike Iran

We know most wont come back

Here is the strength of our master plan

For we cop it as sweet as we can

We save the aid we give to the yids

And get those oil fields in Iran

lols

Murtaza, you are either not a real American or you are simply breathtakingly ignorant of the English language. Either way, your opinion is not worth being claimed as that of an "American". Also, the "innocent" life taken in Japan was not innocent -- the Japanese people knowingly supported the most terrible war crime in history, the rape of China, and we should have starved out their entire miserable people as punishment.

"Using military option against Iran would lead to mass destruction of life and property."

Exactly, destruction of Persian people and property. That does not concern us; they brought the Mullah's to power and are thusly responsible. They will reap the whirlwind and there is plenty of room in Hell for those that support those monsters. Some innocents may die, but so be it. They are responsible for the actions of their leaders and if they get in the way of our JDAM's, boo-frickety-hoo. Destroying Persian nuclear capabilities would not exactly be tantamount to a modern Dresden...

"ahmedinejad never claimed he was going to wipe out israel. He said israel would vanish over time because of its racist policies and fall apart just like communist russia did."

1: You are wrong.

2: He is foolish in expecting such as Israel is the strongest state in the Middle East and will outlast all her neighbors, for if Israel's survival is threatened, the whole MIddle East will become a glass parking lot with a radioactivity signature written in Hebrew, and possibly English and French as well.

"similar to when bush claimed WMDs in iraq. "

Justifiable. Our enemies must be smited and if the only way to wreak our righteous fury upon their heads is through manipulation by strong leaders like Bush, then so be it. The masses are ignorant and unworthy of making such important decisions when ignorance and misleading information is so abounding.

For those who have fought for it, Freedom has a taste the protected will never know.

impressionable americans

ahmedinejad never claimed he was going to wipe out israel. He said israel would vanish over time because of its racist policies and fall apart just like communist russia did. it is moronic to think that iran would simply drop a bomb on israel. americans continue to get played by their leaders and need to grow up and see that their leaders do indeed lie to them.

this is a political tool that bush and his neocons have used to drum up support in the US for military actions around the world. similar to when bush claimed WMDs in iraq.

Practice before you preach

The only country that used nuclear weapons is our own. It killed millions of innocent life in Japan. We as the only users of nuclear weapons of mass destruction do no have the right to preach other what we don't practice. The US administration must completely put the military option off the table. Using military option against Iran would lead to mass destruction of life and property. Wise elements in US administration must pressure the Republican President and Vice-President and other war mongers to come to their senses.

Re: Moronic liberal on Parade

A critical piece of history which must be included in the analysis is that in 1954, the US through the CIA covertly sponsored the Shah to overthrow a democratically elected left of center government. Why? Because that government was moving to nationalize the oil industry. The Shah was then brutal in his rule, creating the conditions for the clerics to take the role they did and do. These are not facts in dispute. For example, over the years, the US has haltingly acknowledged its covert action in 1954.

So when there is a list of past actions to buttress a viewpoint today, let's have an accurate history.

Arrogance is better than ignorance, Ann Marie

The tensions with Iran over their nuclear program, terrorist activities, etc., have nothing to do with arrogance. Whether Bush is arrogant or not, allowing Iran the potential to have nuclear weapons would be ignorant. Whether they used it to nuke israel, or "accidentally" let nukes fall into the hands of terrorists to be used against us and/or our allies, the effect would not be pleasant. The conflict caused by such events would cost the lives of many more of our sons and daughters. War is hell, but not acting when it is needed only brings on larger and more costly wars in the end. I suggest you study up a bit on history. On the subject of Iraq, it could have been planned and handled much more effectively. Had we left, though, we would probably have even bigger problems in the future. Anyone who thinks that prematurely leaving Iraq would change the chants in the Middle East of "Death to America", to "We love America" is fooling themselves.

America the Beautiful

What ever happenned to Innocent until proven guilty? Iran says they want to have nuclear power, not a nuke. And even if they are lying, how can a country who has more nukes than anybody else tell someone that they can't have one. We all signed the same treaty, and the US is still breaking it. Who's going to come here and force us to get rid of our weapons?

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